southsider2k5 Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: I'm just looking at the Forbes valuation of 1.26B, would definitely have thought that it would be more than Arizona Phoenix is the 5th largest City in the US, Detroit is 27th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, Texsox said: Paupers compared to the Waltons or Bezos. Plus if the owners published a list of the wealthiest players it wouldn't matter. Love the players chipping in to help. Great move. And publicizing it was a nice PR move. The obvious difference being those two actually created something while all baseball owners did was buy into a legal monoply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Quin said: Damn, y'all didn't even get a pizza party? Nope haha. 5 hours ago, bmags said: Well what kind of chips were they? Some Jay's originals lmao Edited March 4, 2022 by ScooterMcGee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, ScooterMcGee said: Nope haha. Some lay's originals lmao Trash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Phoenix is the 5th largest City in the US, Detroit is 27th Other than the meaning and scope of the First Amendment and historical/geographical crime rates, can't think of anything that gives rise to more common misconceptions than city size. Most people who haven't looked at a current list of the largest U.S. cities have their minds blown quickly (San Antonio is 7th and Miami is 41st?! San Diego is 8th and Cleveland is 54th?!) Anyway...I need baseball to come back Edited March 4, 2022 by 35thstreetswarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 13 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: $1 million to purchase publicity in their favor, smart move. Yup, smart PR move, but this really doesn’t help those impacted all that much. If there are 1,000 people in need of assistance, this is basically $1k/person. Nice gesture but not going to move the needle a ton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The obvious difference being those two actually created something while all baseball owners did was buy into a legal monoply. Sam Walton died in 1992. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) Oh look, the owners are creating a fund for impacted employees. The PR battle wages on why we fans stay losing! Edited March 4, 2022 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ptatc Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 36 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Oh look, the players are starting a fund to take care of stadium staff screwed over by the lockout, while the owners are squabbling with labor over minuscule costs like meal money. But the players are the greedy ones and ownership deserves all of the spoils because of "risk"... Good PR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: Other than the meaning and scope of the First Amendment and historical/geographical crime rates, can't think of anything that gives rise to more common misconceptions than city size. Most people who haven't looked at a current list of the largest U.S. cities have their minds blown quickly (San Antonio is 7th and Miami is 41st?! San Diego is 8th and Cleveland is 54th?!) Anyway...I need baseball to come back Yeah it's kind of a slight of hand. In terms of baseball markets, better to look at things like "metro areas". But even those have limitations. That said, Miami - Ft Lauderdale - Palm beach metro area is 8th. Phx metro area is 11th, Detroit 14th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The obvious difference being those two actually created something while all baseball owners did was buy into a legal monoply. I would bet most owners had businesses prior to buying into the legal monopoly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Yeah we were totally setting up a fund, so weird that we hadn't told you guys right... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 It's a PR battle they are losing. We still have all the businesses that surround stadiums that are impacted. The reason teams receive such massive tax breaks and incentives. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Yeah we were totally setting up a fund, so weird that we hadn't told you guys right... What’s also funny is why wouldn’t the owners just pay their employees? A fund only makes sense if it’s coming from a 3rd party and not the employer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: The obvious difference being those two actually created something while all baseball owners did was buy into a legal monoply. So why haven't you bought in of that's all it takes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, bmags said: Yeah it's kind of a slight of hand. In terms of baseball markets, better to look at things like "metro areas". But even those have limitations. That said, Miami - Ft Lauderdale - Palm beach metro area is 8th. Phx metro area is 11th, Detroit 14th. This is true. I wasn't really commenting on the relevance of city size to the size of actual baseball markets (i.e. "staying on topic.") Edited March 4, 2022 by 35thstreetswarm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, Texsox said: So why haven't you bought in of that's all it takes? My daddy wasn't a crook. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: This is true. I wasn't really commenting on the relevance of city size to the size of actual baseball markets (e.g. "staying on topic.") Well you are walking into my favorite argument of the single most coddled franchise in baseball, the St Louis Cardinals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 minute ago, bmags said: Well you are walking into my favorite argument of the single most coddled franchise in baseball, the St Louis Cardinals. You mean they of the 72nd largest city and 21st largest metro area? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Quin said: Do you want the workers to have no money? Huh? My whole point from months ago was that all this is going to do is hurt all the ancillary activities and industries that depend on & support the game. Shame on Tony for trying to claim he and the players are on the side of JoeBlow’s support company. Total BS. How about all the millions up for grabs every spring for the local diners and tourist areas? Hero Tony! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 52 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Huh? My whole point from months ago was that all this is going to do is hurt all the ancillary activities and industries that depend on & support the game. Shame on Tony for trying to claim he and the players are on the side of JoeBlow’s support company. Total BS. How about all the millions up for grabs every spring for the local diners and tourist areas? Hero Tony! Yes, it's a real shame the owners locked out the players and are negatively impacted so many people with their unrestrained greed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Not sure if this is real but ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: $230M always felt to me like a good middle ground between the two sides. If the Pirates, A's, & Marlins were on board, that should bode well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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