maloney.adam Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: These guys are a complete fucking joke. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted February 26, 2022 Share Posted February 26, 2022 Oh can I guess, more bs tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Mlb is destroying itself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 It's pretty clear from today's negotiation that the owners are negotiating in bad faith and have always planned on doing as such. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 (edited) Ok so you have the owners that are millionaires/billionaires and you have the players that make a boatload of money, most even millionaires, for what they do. Us fans pay money to watch the product so enough of this bs already. Get a deal done and go back to work. Edited February 27, 2022 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Oh can I guess, more bs tomorrow. They're not meeting tomorrow. Monday is the last day of the meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 3 minutes ago, WBWSF said: They're not meeting tomorrow. Monday is the last day of the meetings. Yeah, not like this is urgent or anything. Their asses should be meetings around the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 32 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: Mlb is destroying itself Yes, it looks that way. We are going to lose games this season. It is just a matter of how many. Meanwhile, there is no use trying to make sense of this. Too hard on the brain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 26 minutes ago, Quin said: It's pretty clear from today's negotiation that the owners are negotiating in bad faith and have always planned on doing as such. Today was irrefutable evidence that ownership is not serious about finding a deal. Two days before their deadline and they are still throwing out non-starters? How do the players even take them seriously at this juncture? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Just amazing that we wait a decade for a competitive team and we run into COVID and some labor bullshit. If I were the players, I’d explore the possibility of starting their own league. While it would certainly be near impossible to pull off in a short period of time, it would basically show the owners they are nothing but a source of capital and with time they could be replaced. As stupid at that may sound, the owners believe they have all the leverage because the players don’t have another source of income. Even a half-baked threat might force them to concede a little bit to avoid opening up that rabbit hole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 24 minutes ago, ScooterMcGee said: Yeah, not like this is urgent or anything. Their asses should be meetings around the clock. If ownership had any interest in negotiating in good faith, I would share these sentiments. But after today’s bullshit, continued meetings feel futile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just amazing that we wait a decade for a competitive team and we run into COVID and some labor bullshit. If I were the players, I’d explore the possibility of starting their own league. While it would certainly be near impossible to pull off in a short period of time, it would basically show the owners they are nothing but a source of capital and with time they could be replaced. As stupid at that may sound, the owners believe they have all the leverage because the players don’t have another source of income. Even a half-baked threat might force them to concede a little bit to avoid opening up that rabbit hole. The players should own the teams. They are the reasons why it exists in the first place. I'd support the players making their own league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 On 2/25/2022 at 8:56 PM, southsider2k5 said: If they don't, I can go to another similar employer at a higher pay rate without needing to leave the country. Ok. Baseball players do have it worst than most American workers. I still believe workers are Amazon, Walmart, etc should receive higher wages based on the profits those companies are reporting. So why isn't someone going to your company to make $20,000 more? Because y'all aren't unionized. We need a massive shift to unions to bring back the middle class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 27 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Well at least they can agree on one thing. Meeting time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 1 minute ago, ScooterMcGee said: Well at least they can agree on one thing. Meeting time. No surprise that this is going down to the 11th hour. The surprise to me will be if both sides are dumb enough to kill the golden goose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 I'll continue to support the owners by going to games, watching on TV, probably buy a hat or two. I'll also support the players by going to games, watching on TV, probably buy a hat or two. I guess the only way to support the players and not the owners is by sending some cash to the players while boycotting games. Maybe the owners have figured that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, ScooterMcGee said: The players should own the teams. They are the reasons why it exists in the first place. I'd support the players making their own league. I am almost certain that this is the one sport where that can’t happen without an act of Congress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Imagine if every employee in your entire industry was part of the same union and negotiating for you. No insurance could be sold until the insurance union and insurance companies reached an agreement. Retail workers everywhere belonging to the same union. No groceries being sold until a CBA was settled. Why would any employee not want to be part of a union? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldsox Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 12 hours ago, ScooterMcGee said: The players should own the teams. They are the reasons why it exists in the first place. I'd support the players making their own league. And, where would they play their games, Scooter? Who will manage the complicated infrastructure of MLB? You're nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 12 hours ago, ScooterMcGee said: The players should own the teams. They are the reasons why it exists in the first place. I'd support the players making their own league. The game exists because for a hundred years players and owners have built "America's Pastime." The current players and owners are both reaping the rewards of many other contributors to its popularity. I hope they don't manage to screw it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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