Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: NSC is suggesting there is some kind of informal trade worked out between us and OAK for one of their pitchers. If that's the case, you can slide that person into 4 and then Keuchel/Kopech split innings on 5. I actually wouldn't be surprised if there was a market for Keuchel at a salary of like 11/12m. I wouldn't be opposed to eating 6m of the 18m this year, moving him out and saving 12m in the process and not having to worry about the whole vesting issue for next year. absolutely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 If there were a salary floor, trading a contract like Keuchel (short-term / high dollar with a good veteran presence) would be a much easier proposition. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JoeC said: If there were a salary floor, trading a contract like Keuchel (short-term / high dollar with a good veteran presence) would be a much easier proposition. A salary floor needs to happen. The players need to realize that the CBT is a salary cap and go to a cap/floor model and negotiate a split of baseball related revenue. This is not a fight for this particular CBA, but the next one. Edited March 1, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoCalChiSox Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: Union prolly wants to get the prearb pool up a little higher and get rid of the 220 CBT for three straight years. 40-50m and 220/225/230 will prolly be enough IMO and if they throw the owners a bone on intl draft that should be enough to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Just now, Tnetennba said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: And that is why there is still room for skepticism this gets done today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Union prolly wants to get the prearb pool up a little higher and get rid of the 220 CBT for three straight years. 40-50m and 220/225/230 will prolly be enough IMO and if they throw the owners a bone on intl draft that should be enough to get it done. you're waaay too optimistic imo. As I've said all along, the owners are content to wait out the players until they cave. Edited March 1, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, wegner said: Not sure I really like the way it has been with the 1 and done wild card game, so I don't have a problem with the top 2 teams getting a bye and the others playing a 3 game series if that is how it will be constructed. Agreed - I like the way they are shaping it up. A big advantage for the top 2 teams - bye is huge. You get some extra rest, get to stack your rotation, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 5:00 was the new self imposed deadline correct? That gives them 2 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 They spent a lot of time well into the night yesterday working on a deal. I think (hope) they're closer than it seems. I'd be surprised that, after working so hard yesterday, they'd walk away at 5:00 and say "Oh well." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Union prolly wants to get the prearb pool up a little higher and get rid of the 220 CBT for three straight years. 40-50m and 220/225/230 will prolly be enough IMO and if they throw the owners a bone on intl draft that should be enough to get it done. $230M and $50M gets it done I have to think. Middle ground numbers and a compromise on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, hogan873 said: They spent a lot of time well into the night yesterday working on a deal. I think (hope) they're closer than it seems. I'd be surprised that, after working so hard yesterday, they'd walk away at 5:00 and say "Oh well." I tend to agree. Bob's tweet is vague. We don't know exactly what those gaps are or if they have shrunk at all. After yesterday's marathon both sides should know where the compromises are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 If this is more obstinate owner hardball I swear... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jack Parkman Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Just now, Tnetennba said: Woooooow. Fuck ownership. They have barely moved at all and it's the players that have gone backwards? The amount of hubris is astounding. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Here we go again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 There's no point giving a shit about the theatrics in the media. If there is meaningful progress in their last proposal it will get it closer to done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 8 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Like I said, if any commish could blow this... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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