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Balta1701 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 39 minutes ago, oldsox said: Has Jerry spent the last two years complaining about being broke? No. Why? Because they are not broke. “The two teams and the stadium all have expenses,’’ Reinsdorf told USA Today’s Bob Nightengale. “None have income. That’s a bad business model. The Bulls got to play 75% of the season, so the losses aren’t bad. We had a lousy season [22-43], so we weren’t going to be in the playoffs, anyway. But the baseball losses are tremendous.’’ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Keep on crying poor you greedy fucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: This seems reasonable. I’m sure harsher penalties. Hope this wraps it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Just now, bmags said: This seems reasonable. I’m sure harsher penalties. Hope this wraps it up. Maybe the players union will cave, in previous CBA's they have, but it's tough for me to envision them signing off on a CBA where the CBT only goes up by ~5% over the life of it. But hopefully this leaking means the numbers are close enough where an actual compromise is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Maybe the players union will cave, in previous CBA's they have, but it's tough for me to envision them signing off on a CBA where the CBT only goes up by ~5% over the life of it. But hopefully this leaking means the numbers are close enough where an actual compromise is possible. That’s after a one time boost of almost 10% though. There’s likely some find tweaks but the number should work on that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 If MLB is proposing $230M and the other numbers are close to what we’ve seen reported, they have to be close enough to make tweaks and find a deal. Unless owners are trying to slip bullshit in last minute again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Not sure if it’s even plausible, but is there a situation where they’re close enough and only need a few final tweaks, and they end the lockout and continue negotiating, knowing a deal will be done in the next few days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Not sure if it’s even plausible, but is there a situation where they’re close enough and only need a few final tweaks, and they end the lockout and continue negotiating, knowing a deal will be done in the next few days? There’s no legal issue that would prevent this. Whether the owners would do it I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 I'm starting to get my hopes up again... sigh. Here we go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Can they please just get this done so that I can feel free to check in here 5,000 times a day to see if they've traded Kimbrel yet!! 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: I'm starting to get my hopes up again... sigh. Here we go. It’s happening bro…a written proposal is a really good sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 24 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Not sure if it’s even plausible, but is there a situation where they’re close enough and only need a few final tweaks, and they end the lockout and continue negotiating, knowing a deal will be done in the next few days? I’d love to see it but I doubt the owners would lift the lockout w/o dry ink on a new CBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 13 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: I'm starting to get my hopes up again... sigh. Here we go. Yeah, waiting for the “considerable strings” to be revealed and crush our hopes yet again… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 Ok, so a flat pre-Arb pool and it counting against CBT are the strings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 27 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: That’s after a one time boost of almost 10% though. There’s likely some find tweaks but the number should work on that issue. If the owners are willing to go higher on later years CBT, I think they'll have a deal. It's clear from what's being negotiated that the players have conceded they won't make up lost revenue from previous CBA's, but I don't think a ~15% increase to the CBT (by the final year of the new CBA) is enough for players to sign off on when revenues increased by 30% between 2015-2019. But that's why it's the owners proposal and not the players. I would think this isn't a final offer for tonight. It seems as if the numbers we're seeing now are close enough to be negotiated, so hopefully that is the case and they can reach a deal tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 This looks like the first legit not a non-starter offer to this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Tnetennba Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 A new surcharge level can’t be a deal breaker, right? Please? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: A new surcharge level can’t be a deal breaker, right? Please? It probably would be. MLBPA will view it as a salary cap(as they should) and will consider it a non-starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Heads22 said: So basically the owners want to implement a Steve Cohen tier tax which makes total sense. If the players reject this offer because of this specific element then the players are being selfish and truly don’t care about the competitive balance of the game. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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