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pcq Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 I was neutral but the owners are dix. Raise the minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 The bright side is - free agency is going to be crazy once they do agree. There is going to be a flurry of action in a compressed window. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: What if they start and no one is signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 2 hours ago, Bunt Ritual said: I think people need to start to realize that we're going to miss games. At this rate we will be lucky if it only wipes out April games. But I fear the owners want another 60 game season with expanded post season like 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Like I said earlier, I have already started spending this years baseball money on other things. Definitely not feeling overly compelled to drop coin on a 10 or 20 game plan right now, that's for sure. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: Definitely not feeling overly compelled to drop coin on a 10 or 20 game plan right now, that's for sure. I was going to buy a few of the six ticket specials in the 300 level, but passed on it without knowing what the lockout would do to this season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 52 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Love that sense of urgency!? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Just now, southsider2k5 said: I was going to buy a few of the six ticket specials in the 300 level, but passed on it without knowing what the lockout would do to this season. I'm sure once my bitterness fades I'll snag tix to a few games this summer. But they won't get the same dollar investment up front I might have otherwise made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: I'm sure once my bitterness fades I'll snag tix to a few games this summer. But they won't get the same dollar investment up front I might have otherwise made. My purchases will probably end up through stubhub at discounted prices instead of directly through the team, though if this lasts at all into the season, I may well not go at all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 16 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Definitely not feeling overly compelled to drop coin on a 10 or 20 game plan right now, that's for sure. how long did it take people to get playoff refunds last october? Weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: how long did it take people to get playoff refunds last october? Weeks? Over a month for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: how long did it take people to get playoff refunds last october? Weeks? I don't know personally, but it seemed like a month+. It was not an expedient refund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 34 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: how long did it take people to get playoff refunds last october? Weeks? Definitely, and also part of the reason why I wouldn't spend yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 If they expand the playoffs to forty teams the Sox could be invited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Tnetennba said: Love that sense of urgency!? Why in gods name haven't they already worked out the non core stuff???? We will be lucky to play 100 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: Why in gods name haven't they already worked out the non core stuff???? We will be lucky to play 100 games. Because the owners refused to make any complete proposal until the lockout had already gone on for 43 days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 This sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Hopefully some players and scientists are getting together and discovering new ways of cheating to save the game like last time. The owners could end this now. Just accept the proposal and move on. I'm looking over what some are suggesting will be the hardest to resolve issues and I can't get excited about either position. Super 2 arb? Great, I'll take either side or anywhere in the middle if it means a settlement. Revenue sharing? Sure, either side or settle anywhere in the middle. I'm pro settle this fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 13 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: The bright side is - free agency is going to be crazy once they do agree. There is going to be a flurry of action in a compressed window. Should be pretty wild. Hopefully the Sox get involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, hogan873 said: Should be pretty wild. Hopefully the Sox get involved. Hopefully the small payroll clubs are forced to be involved. Then we'll see some fireworks. Force a couple of those clubs to add 20 or 30 million to their payroll. Yee haw! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Texsox said: Hopefully the small payroll clubs are forced to be involved. Then we'll see some fireworks. Force a couple of those clubs to add 20 or 30 million to their payroll. Yee haw! The players said their #1 concern was needing all clubs to be trying for competitive balance. Raising the club minimum salary base should be all we are hearing about. So far it seems that this bonus pool which affects very view players has been the main thrust. If I am an average major league player...I don't want to be missing paychecks to fight for these things that don't have much significance for the majority of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, poppysox said: The players said their #1 concern was needing all clubs to be trying for competitive balance. Raising the club minimum salary base should be all we are hearing about. So far it seems that this bonus pool which affects very view players has been the main thrust. If I am an average major league player...I don't want to be missing paychecks to fight for these things that don't have much significance for the majority of players. The minimum really doesn't force any competitive balance. The amount of talent available stays the same. If the Dodgers are paying a player 2x what a small market is currently paying they could continue to offer 2x the small market price and the player doesn't move. Basically for competitive balance the playoff teams should lose talented players to the non playoff teams. The Sox should be selling not buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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