maloney.adam Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: We’re so getting Harper AND Wheeler. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 Why wouldn't the Phillies simply sign Kenley Jansen for cash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Why wouldn't the Phillies simply sign Kenley Jansen for cash? Because mashed potatoes and gravy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 11 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Why wouldn't the Phillies simply sign Kenley Jansen for cash? But can Kenley do this? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, maloney.adam said: I would add his most current comment: "No idea how close sides are or if a deal will be completed between them and the #WhiteSox." Pretty much covers all possible scenarios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, SCCWS said: I would add his most current comment: "No idea how close sides are or if a deal will be completed between them and the #WhiteSox." Pretty much covers all possible scenarios. So… you’re saying he’s a dumbass then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, hi8is said: So… you’re saying he’s a dumbass then? This is the only guy that’s leaking anything right now on Kimbrel. Everyone else is staying quiet so it’s quite strange. Edited November 27, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Que Mr. Burns “excellent” gif. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 If this guy is worth any salt - I can’t see how a trade including Segura for the Phils could be considered “very bad”. This whole thing is bizarre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: If this guy is worth any salt - I can’t see how a trade including Segura for the Phils could be considered “very bad”. This whole thing is bizarre. Yeah his opinion doesn’t mean anything if his thought process is any deal involving Segura for Kimbrel is an overpay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, hi8is said: If this guy is worth any salt - I can’t see how a trade including Segura for the Phils could be considered “very bad”. This whole thing is bizarre. I’m thinking the framework of the deal has already been agreed to, just some things need to be worked out for the deal to go through but who knows. It’s quite bizarre. Edited November 27, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Why wouldn't the Phillies simply sign Kenley Jansen for cash? Maybe Kimbrel for 1 year is better than Kenley for 3-4 years? Maybe Kenley is going to demand more than 16 per year? Maybe they don't believe in Kenley. Maybe Dombrowski knows Kimbrel and thinks he can get the best out of him. Those are the reasons of which I can think in 15 seconds, there are probably more. Edited November 27, 2021 by turnin' two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 46 minutes ago, turnin' two said: there are probably more. They both ( oddly ) believe that cranberries are the best part of a thanksgiving meal… so they’re brothers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 53 minutes ago, turnin' two said: Maybe Kimbrel for 1 year is better than Kenley for 3-4 years? I believe there is where most of Kimbrel’s value is. A team can acquire an (arguably) elite closer for a “win-now” season without handing out a large multi-year deal. They also would not have to get into a monetary bidding war with another team. If the team has expendable resources, they can simply acquire Kimbrel for one season at a predetermined salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 hours ago, bmags said: Acquiring a player mid season and promising them a closer role is a defacto demotion for one of your best performing players to that point. That TLR may have gone rogue and undermined it just highlights that it was a pretty complicated plan to impose mid season on a role that was working reasonably well. I don't think this was the case. I am reading that as some mixing and matching instead of just dumping one or the other. But apparently playing match ups or moving pieces around to try to maximize success was too much for our HOF person manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, turnin' two said: Maybe Kimbrel for 1 year is better than Kenley for 3-4 years? Maybe Kenley is going to demand more than 16 per year? Maybe they don't believe in Kenley. Maybe Dombrowski knows Kimbrel and thinks he can get the best out of him. Those are the reasons of which I can think in 15 seconds, there are probably more. I would be shocked if Jansen got 4 years. You hedged a bit with 3, but 2 or an incentives~based third year feels like the likeliest scenario. Also depends ultimately on what happens with Raisel Iglesias. Just not sure it's such a slam dunk that Dombrowski will risk his last GM job on overpaying for Craig Kimbrel as some of these scenarios are suggesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: I would be shocked if Jansen got 4 years. You hedged a bit with 3, but 2 or an incentives~based third year feels like the likeliest scenario. Also depends ultimately on what happens with Raisel Iglesias. Just not sure it's such a slam dunk that Dombrowski will risk his last GM job on overpaying for Craig Kimbrel as some of these scenarios are suggesting. Graveman just got three years, zero chance Jansen doesn’t unless he resigns with the Dodgers under team friendly terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 37 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Graveman just got three years, zero chance Jansen doesn’t unless he resigns with the Dodgers under team friendly terms. Isn’t Jansen 84 years old by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 As always, take it FWIW: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Wonder if the Padres would have interest in Kimbrel for Frazier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: As always, take it FWIW: Cheesiest of cheese. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 27, 2021 Author Share Posted November 27, 2021 3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Graveman just got three years, zero chance Jansen doesn’t unless he resigns with the Dodgers under team friendly terms. Except Graveman is adding stuff to his arsenal, not slowly losing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 27, 2021 Share Posted November 27, 2021 Met’s roster is getting a bit crowded after their signings yesterday….wonder if Jeff McNeil would be available? LH bat that can play 2B or OF. Coming off a down/injury plagued year though. But I could see Kimbrel being a splash piece Cohen and the Mets want to go after Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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