Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, fathom said: How can anyone see what Hahn said today and not think he’s being traded after the lockout? It always seemed like the smart thing to do. What's the rush? The bullpen is a neccessary evil and teams will be scrambling to add arms after the lockout ends. Why wouldn't they wait for when his market will be at it's highest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: It always seemed like the smart thing to do. What's the rush? The bullpen is a neccessary evil and teams will be scrambling to add arms after the lockout ends. Why wouldn't they wait for when his market will be at it's highest. Just look around, barely any trades have been made. No reason to worry about Kimbrel yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Just look around, barely any trades have been made. No reason to worry about Kimbrel yet. Not worried in the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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southsider2k5 Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, fathom said: How can anyone see what Hahn said today and not think he’s being traded after the lockout? For a guy that doesn't say a lot of clear words, this is about a clearly as he talks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Not worried in the least. With the Phillies and Angels off the board, seemingly Arizona....who is desperate for a closer now? Toronto? Padres? Rays....although NOT really, they have Castillo and Kittredge and a shoestring budget. Dodgers? K. Jansen still looming out there, he will fill one of those...in all likelihood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: With the Phillies and Angels off the board, seemingly Arizona....who is desperate for a closer now? Toronto? Padres? Rays....although NOT really, they have Castillo and Kittredge and a shoestring budget. Dodgers? K. Jansen still looming out there, he will fill one of those...in all likelihood. Rangers, Cardinals, Cubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) Closer 1st in line 2nd in line 2022 Closer Updated TEX Joe Barlow Spencer Patton Josh Sborz Jose Leclerc 9/25/21 (IL) Jose Leclerc Jonathan Hernandez Edited December 2, 2021 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Rangers, Cardinals, Cubs I can't get the copy and paste formatting from Closer Monkey.com (a real site name) to work. Cardinals relying on Jordan Hicks' return and then Gallegos as their back-up. Cubs would take him back for what, exactly? Padres, it would be Kimbrel for Kim or Profar, but then are either of those two going to outproduce Leury??? Over the next 2-3 seasons, that wouldn't save any money from the overall payroll, either. Dodgers could easily go with Treinen, Graterol combination and add at mid-season, or bring back Jansen as well at lower salary. Blue Jays, MAYBE??? *Jordan Romano Adam Cimber Tim Mayza (Yates signed with Yankees, 2 years/$8.25 million) Edited December 2, 2021 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockren Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I still think this is setup man money. Besides- Segura's contract still washes Kimbrel's with a prospect from Philly thrown in. I still think Philly is the favorite to get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 2, 2021 Author Share Posted December 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, rockren said: I still think this is setup man money. Besides- Segura's contract still washes Kimbrel's with a prospect from Philly thrown in. I still think Philly is the favorite to get him. But now they have multiple guys with closing experience. They don't have to do anything...unless the White Sox are willing to take Gregorious instead of Kimbrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 6 hours ago, Balta1701 said: And IMO - he’s worth $16 million to Rick Hahn, but to no one else. I would think that Rick Hahn thinks he's worth substantially greater than $16 million in the market. That would explain picking up the option for the purpose of trading him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, GreenSox said: I would think that Rick Hahn thinks he's worth substantially greater than $16 million in the market. That would explain picking up the option for the purpose of trading him. At least Hahn finally finds himself pawning the aged veteran for something young and talented. Bet he doesn’t do nearly as well as others have done against him. Edited December 2, 2021 by Chick Mercedes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 9 hours ago, Chick Mercedes said: At least Hahn finally finds himself pawning the aged veteran for something young and talented. Bet he doesn’t do nearly as well as others have done against him. That's a pretty safe bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradMc Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 (edited) Cubs got the best of Hahn on that one. A major win in an otherwise lousy year on Clark & Addison. Edited December 2, 2021 by GradMc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backwash07 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 I know segura has been talked at length. If we are getting a veteran for Kimbrel who may be available, how about Randal grichek? I’d prefer payroll flex and minor leaguers, but thought he may feel right field. Looks like three years and about 28 million left on his contract? He was mentioned in trade talks prior to lock out. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, Backwash07 said: I know segura has been talked at length. If we are getting a veteran for Kimbrel who may be available, how about Randal grichek? I’d prefer payroll flex and minor leaguers, but thought he may feel right field. Looks like three years and about 28 million left on his contract? He was mentioned in trade talks prior to lock out. Thoughts? Grichuk kind of sucks (RH, low OBP, high SO), and the Sox would be taking on a decent chunk of salary in 2023 as well. I really hope they didn’t exercise Kimbrel’s option for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 Kimbrel can't get traded anywhere until probably February at the earliest. How far off the rails is this thread going to get by then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 1 hour ago, CentralChamps21 said: Kimbrel can't get traded anywhere until probably February at the earliest. How far off the rails is this thread going to get by then? It’s all we have left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/12/yankees-blue-jays-red-sox-reportedly-most-aggressive-suitors-for-seiya-suzuki.html Quote At that point, there’s a decent chance of Suzuki winding up in the AL East, according to a report from Sean McAdam of Boston Sports Journal. “One major league source reports the Yankees, Blue Jays and Red Sox have been the most aggressive in pursuit of Suzuki,” McAdam writes. Yankees sign Suzuki and then flip Gallo for Kimbrel+? It's probably wishful thinking, but a trade for Gallo might be realistic if they're pursuing other outfielders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share Posted December 6, 2021 2 hours ago, maxjusttyped said: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/12/yankees-blue-jays-red-sox-reportedly-most-aggressive-suitors-for-seiya-suzuki.html Yankees sign Suzuki and then flip Gallo for Kimbrel+? It's probably wishful thinking, but a trade for Gallo might be realistic if they're pursuing other outfielders. They're really going to trust Suzuki as a starter but not Gallo, based on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 19 hours ago, caulfield12 said: They're really going to trust Suzuki as a starter but not Gallo, based on what? I don't think Suzuki is signing to be a 4th outfielder. Stanton has DH filled, RF is locked in with Judge, the options for where Suzuki plays start to look limited if they add him to their current roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 23 hours ago, caulfield12 said: They're really going to trust Suzuki as a starter but not Gallo, based on what? Wasn't Gallo considered a flop with the Yankees? They probably want to move on to literally anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share Posted December 7, 2021 6 hours ago, Sarava said: Wasn't Gallo considered a flop with the Yankees? They probably want to move on to literally anything else. He’s got a much more extensive record of performance than, let’s say, Cesar Hernandez. If they want to dump him, the Sox should be quite interested. Plus, the AL Central isn’t nearly as competitive as the AL East. Solves the Conforto lineup balancing quandary without the 4-6 year commitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 12/2/2021 at 1:46 AM, caulfield12 said: Cubs would take him back for what, exactly? They could give back Madrigal and but that would cause too much argument here on Soxtalk so the trade could never be done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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