caulfield12 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 Kimbrel=Alex Rios in the all-time pantheon of interesting contract maneuvers...obviously, much less of a commitment financially but pretty much universally-disliked for their time with the Sox 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I pray this is sarcasm It's not. It never is. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 *Awaits mass panic that we’re keeping him and moving Hendriks to a setup role* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: *Awaits mass panic that we’re keeping him and moving Hendriks to a setup role* Bah it only takes a couple implosions before that strategy would be given up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: It surprised me last year that we never tried splitting the closing a little bit more, but then I remembered who our manager is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It surprised me last year that we never tried splitting the closing a little bit more, but then I remembered who our manager is. I think Kimbrel’s problems went beyond just how he was used, but we should have given him more closer opportunities to find out at a bare minimum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Kimbrel=Alex Rios in the all-time pantheon of interesting contract maneuvers...obviously, much less of a commitment financially but pretty much universally-disliked for their time with the Sox So the return for Kimbrel will be a super utility guy who is both loved and hated on this board. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I think Kimbrel’s problems went beyond just how he was used, but we should have given him more closer opportunities to find out at a bare minimum. The problem is now we still don't know. It kept failing, and we kept doing the same thing over and over again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Just now, southsider2k5 said: The problem is now we still don't know. It kept failing, and we kept doing the same thing over and over again. Fully agree…there was absolutely no downside in trying when we had a double digit lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 3 minutes ago, wegner said: So the return for Kimbrel will be a super utility guy who is both loved and hated on this board. In like 6-7 years time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 The Phillies are in an interesting spot for a Kimbrel trade. Rhys Hoskins is awful at 1B and their recent 1st round pick Alex Bohm can’t play 3B. Phillies also have a bad bullpen and no definite closer….Hoskins for Kimbrel? Puts a big LH bat in the middle of our order. DH only though. Of course if universal DH is adopted is could easy make the Phillies a lot less interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 minute ago, TheFutureIsNear said: The Phillies are in an interesting spot for a Kimbrel trade. Rhys Hoskins is awful at 1B and their recent 1st round pick Alex Bohm can’t play 3B. Phillies also have a bad bullpen and no definite closer….Hoskins for Kimbrel? Puts a big LH bat in the middle of our order. DH only though. Of course if universal DH is adopted is could easy make the Phillies a lot less interested. He’s a righty hitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 The extra line in this tweet seems important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 24 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The extra line in this tweet seems important. Spending 30m of your payroll on 2 relievers. Hahn is a genius. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, fathom said: He’s a righty hitter He’s young. He can learn to hit lefty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The extra line in this tweet seems important. Hahn trying to say Kimbrel was only bad because he wasn't in a closer role is just Hahn trying to maximize Kimbrel's trade value. He's trying to convince other GMs that if they trade for Kimbrel and put him back in the 9th inning role, they'll be getting the lockdown version of Kimbrel. Maybe he's right. And maybe this is the smart way to approach it. But it's pretty obvious what he's doing. Edited November 10, 2021 by KrankinSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Middle Buffalo said: He’s young. He can learn to hit lefty. That's the kind of can do attitude this organization needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, KrankinSox said: Hahn trying to say Kimbrel was only bad because he wasn't in a closer role is just Hahn trying to maximize Kimbrel's trade value. He's trying to convince other GMs that if they trade for Kimbrel and put him back in the 9th inning role, they'll be getting the lockdown version of Kimbrel. Maybe he's right. And maybe this is the smart way to approach it. But it's pretty obvious what he's doing. Well I can tell you it’s what other teams and scouts also believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Well I can tell you it’s what other teams and scouts also believe Good. If there are multiple teams that believe they are trading for Kimbrel in HOF form, then that increases the Sox return. Hope we can salvage something useful from all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 23 minutes ago, KrankinSox said: Hahn trying to say Kimbrel was only bad because he wasn't in a closer role is just Hahn trying to maximize Kimbrel's trade value. He's trying to convince other GMs that if they trade for Kimbrel and put him back in the 9th inning role, they'll be getting the lockdown version of Kimbrel. Maybe he's right. And maybe this is the smart way to approach it. But it's pretty obvious what he's doing. I totally agree. What is Rick going to say when asked about Kimbrel? "We picked up his option only to trade him. He was TERRIBLE for us but we are really hopeful someone will take him off our hands, otherwise it really screws up our off-season plans." This is all Rick just trying to pretend the Sox might actually keep him, but there is just no way that's the plan. Rick could have 100% overplayed his hand and there aren't any takers for him, but I believe with almost certainty Rick feels like he can trade him without much problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 10, 2021 Author Share Posted November 10, 2021 "He's been terrible in convos, and usually doesn't even return calls for 2-3 days." Rick Hahn quotes that will never occur. Obviously, he wants to get back to his closer's role with another contending team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Convos? What's next....Kimbrel has been outstanding in simulated discussions...we hope to have him up to nice long chit chats before Spring Training. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 1 hour ago, wegner said: Convos? Hello 140 character limit language. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 12 hours ago, turnin' two said: We know he would be great at taking the dog for a walk. If you need to clean anything out, he can load up the bags. He can't make pancakes though. He loses control and hits the batter too often. Alright, that's all I got. I'll show myself out. I can give you Tuesdays at midnight in my garage. No pay, work for tips. Warning: raccoons are aggressive around here at night. Nah, seriously, you're funny. 5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: It surprised me last year that we never tried splitting the closing a little bit more, but then I remembered who our manager is. Me too, but saying this now could be a ruse, as others have posted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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