Balta1701 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 2 hours ago, ShoeLessRob said: https://www.si.com/mlb/mets/news/sources-mets-intend-to-make-jeff-mcneil-available-on-trading-block-after-lockout Weird timing on running this? Wonder what is behind that? Anyway, they say they want pitching, and clearly the White Sox can’t afford to move Cease or Kopech, so Crochet as a key piece? Maybe with one of the top pieces from the system added since this guy has so much control? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: Weird timing on running this? Wonder what is behind that? Anyway, they say they want pitching, and clearly the White Sox can’t afford to move Cease or Kopech, so Crochet as a key piece? Maybe with one of the top pieces from the system added since this guy has so much control? He's 30 years old, 2021 might no have been a fluke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted December 25, 2021 Share Posted December 25, 2021 On 12/5/2021 at 6:18 PM, CentralChamps21 said: Kimbrel can't get traded anywhere until probably February at the earliest. How far off the rails is this thread going to get by then? Farther than I even thought possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 A few posters here including ss2K loved the trade and thought Kimbrel would almost guarantee a WS run. Nobody is defending the trade now and it might look even worse if Hahn does not pull a rabbit out of his hat and obtain a major league ready player that can help the Sox in exchange for Kimbrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 hours ago, tray said: A few posters here including ss2K loved the trade and thought Kimbrel would almost guarantee a WS run. Nobody is defending the trade now and it might look even worse if Hahn does not pull a rabbit out of his hat and obtain a major league ready player that can help the Sox in exchange for Kimbrel. I would imagine that now, 5 months after the trade, 3 months after the season ended, that a few posters here including SS2K5 have realized that Kimbrel didn't work out. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: I would imagine that now, 5 months after the trade, 3 months after the season ended, that a few posters here including SS2K5 have realized that Kimbrel didn't work out. All though I do appreciate the rent free space he gives to me, even if he can't quite understand what I post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 10 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: All though I do appreciate the rent free space he gives to me, even if he can't quite understand what I post. You were in favor of the trade adding that it would virtually ensure a run at the WS. No mistaking what you said. 14 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: I would imagine that now, that a few posters here including SS2K5 have realized that Kimbrel didn't work out. An admission from said poster that he was dead wrong would be preferable to words from an apologist 5 months after the trade, 3 months after the season has ended. This is a poster who goes to the mat with others like poppysox just to prove them wrong. It's gotten old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 8 hours ago, tray said: You were in favor of the trade adding that it would virtually ensure a run at the WS. No mistaking what you said. An admission from said poster that he was dead wrong would be preferable to words from an apologist 5 months after the trade, 3 months after the season has ended. This is a poster who goes to the mat with others like poppysox just to prove them wrong. It's gotten old. Suck it up and move on. It's ok. Just think, if Vaughn puts in a huge year which is very possible, you are gonna have to just admit, and admit, and admit a little more how wrong you were. Imagine that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 11 hours ago, tray said: You were in favor of the trade adding that it would virtually ensure a run at the WS. No mistaking what you said. An admission from said poster that he was dead wrong would be preferable to words from an apologist 5 months after the trade, 3 months after the season has ended. This is a poster who goes to the mat with others like poppysox just to prove them wrong. It's gotten old. Literally was never said, but keep that space for me warm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 On 12/30/2021 at 6:58 AM, Kyyle23 said: I would imagine that now, 5 months after the trade, 3 months after the season ended, that a few posters here including SS2K5 have realized that Kimbrel didn't work out. More posters should be giving JR credit for spending the money and player capital to attempt to strengthen our chances for a WS run. Didn't work out but he did push the money into the pot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 1 hour ago, poppysox said: More posters should be giving JR credit for spending the money and player capital to attempt to strengthen our chances for a WS run. Didn't work out but he did push the money into the pot. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 31, 2021 Share Posted December 31, 2021 I see the New Years drinking has started early 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted January 1, 2022 Share Posted January 1, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, poppysox said: More posters should be giving JR credit for spending the money and player capital to attempt to strengthen our chances for a WS run. Didn't work out but he did push the money into the pot. Sadly, the only one who deserves credit for the Kimbrel trade is Jed Hoyer. Edited January 1, 2022 by Sarava 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 $6-8 million now going the other way…if not $10 million. They might as well start casting the Silver Slugger Award for Nick Madrigal…because the law of terrible trades is they never entirely go away. Might as well force him to pitch well enough during the regular season he recovers to 75 cents or 80 cents on the dollar in trade value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 The answer to the OP's question seems to be nowhere and nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 If the rumors are true and there were offers on the table, it was a huge mistake to not pull the trigger on the best one before sending him out to pitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 56 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: $6-8 million now going the other way…if not $10 million. They might as well start casting the Silver Slugger Award for Nick Madrigal…because the law of terrible trades is they never entirely go away. Might as well force him to pitch well enough during the regular season he recovers to 75 cents or 80 cents on the dollar in trade value. He's going to be so far down the bench by the trade deadline the Sox will be using the phrase "well rested" in all trade offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 For the old-timers - bigger mistake Billy Koch or Kimbrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Texsox said: For the old-timers - bigger mistake Billy Koch or Kimbrel? Kimbrel. Not that I’m an old timer. Edited March 24, 2022 by Tnetennba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 9 minutes ago, Texsox said: He's going to be so far down the bench by the trade deadline the Sox will be using the phrase "well rested" in all trade offers. We'll also be hearing a lot of "sunk costs" this summer in reference to Keuchel and Kimbrel, the K&K Boys. That might even ruin my positive youthful memories of K&K Hardware back in Bettendorf, lol. They sponsored Mustang or Bronco League teams every summer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: Kimbrel. Not that I’m an old timer. If Madrigal becomes a consistent 3-4 fWAR player for the Cubs over the next 5 years, it will definitely be Kimbrel... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 A Ford Pinto maybe, but with used car prices maybe not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 16 minutes ago, Texsox said: For the old-timers - bigger mistake Billy Koch or Kimbrel? Today it looks like Kimbrel but in another month that can change dramatically. Koch was traded for Foulke while Kimbrel cost us, Madrigal. No comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 24, 2022 Author Share Posted March 24, 2022 That darned trade has now cost us roughly $20 million in payroll flexibility...between Kimbrel and Harrison's salaries, minus Madrigal and Heuer. (Can't remember whether Cesar Hernandez had a small buyout or not.) Or just about the exact amount Conforto was projected to receive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Jack Parkman said: The answer to the OP's question seems to be nowhere and nothing. Hahn has brought a novel approach to trading prospects for veterans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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