hi8is Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Castellanos is gonna get a 7 or 8 year deal… with another team, thankfully. I’m good with Rodon or Ray or a SP trade + Schwarber + Tephera + Trade Kimbrel for a backup catcher and second baseman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Buffalo Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Is there any thought to moving Moncada back to 2b? It would allow Burger to take over at 3b (not even sure he’s ready) and put the focus on finding an everyday RF and another SP arm. I know Moncada wasn’t good defensively at 2b (and he appears to not have the right body for it anymore), but he has experience. It doesn’t seem like the remaining 2b options are great, and I can’t picture either Burger or Vaughn playing 2b. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Middle Buffalo said: Is there any thought to moving Moncada back to 2b? It would allow Burger to take over at 3b (not even sure he’s ready) and put the focus on finding an everyday RF and another SP arm. I know Moncada wasn’t good defensively at 2b (and he appears to not have the right body for it anymore), but he has experience. It doesn’t seem like the remaining 2b options are great, and I can’t picture either Burger or Vaughn playing 2b. Idk I have a feeling 2B will be filled via trade (in a Kimbrel deal? For Vaughn + +? Who knows). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 7 minutes ago, Middle Buffalo said: Is there any thought to moving Moncada back to 2b? It would allow Burger to take over at 3b (not even sure he’s ready) and put the focus on finding an everyday RF and another SP arm. I know Moncada wasn’t good defensively at 2b (and he appears to not have the right body for it anymore), but he has experience. It doesn’t seem like the remaining 2b options are great, and I can’t picture either Burger or Vaughn playing 2b. Why weaken 3B for a lesser player? Leave Moncada at 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Sacamano Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: This was definitely worth sharing ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 One thing I’m not looking forward to if the Sox do nothing today is the arrogant tweets by Stoney about how much Jerry has already spent on the team and the real additions will be the health of the main guys for a full year 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: One thing I’m not looking forward to if the Sox do nothing today is the arrogant tweets by Stoney about how much Jerry has already spent on the team and the real additions will be the health of the main guys for a full year Yep. And something about how they can add at trade deadline if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, fathom said: One thing I’m not looking forward to if the Sox do nothing today is the arrogant tweets by Stoney about how much Jerry has already spent on the team and the real additions will be the health of the main guys for a full year Aren't there 2 more days until the work stoppage? I'll wait until then to be really pissed off that we did nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, chw42 said: Aren't there 2 more days until the work stoppage? I'll wait until then to be really pissed off that we did nothing. Report last night was that deals needed to be agreed to today in order to be finalized by the end of the CBA. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Report last night was that deals needed to be agreed to today in order to be finalized by the end of the CBA. Oh damn. I'll need to sharpen my pitchfork tonight then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I am just going to say this outloud. The Sox lack of activity so far tells me that they have a heavy belief that the deals will be better after the CBA gets done and this is why they have the lack of urgency to get it done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 5 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am just going to say this outloud. The Sox lack of activity so far tells me that they have a heavy belief that the deals will be better after the CBA gets done and this is why they have the lack of urgency to get it done. That's not helpful if targets are getting signed before the CBA, though. They better hope Conforto doesn't get snatched up today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am just going to say this outloud. The Sox lack of activity so far tells me that they have a heavy belief that the deals will be better after the CBA gets done and this is why they have the lack of urgency to get it done. I'm pretty torn on the Sox right now. On one hand, I think they are in a much different situation than the Mets, Rangers, etc. who have made big splashes right now. The Sox don't really need to do that, persay. On the other hand, I'd be over the moon if JR and Rick said "Fuck it, this is it, go sign Max for the top of the rotation, let's figure it out after, 3 years won't kill us." But we know that's not how they operate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, ron883 said: That's not helpful if targets are getting signed before the CBA, though. They better hope Conforto doesn't get snatched up today. A quiet day today would be very helpful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Conforto had a .8 WAR last year. Sheets ripped RH pitching. Don't have enough young talent to spare for these trades for players with 1 or 2 years left on their contracts (especially with the As). Use free agency, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, Tony said: I'm pretty torn on the Sox right now. On one hand, I think they are in a much different situation than the Mets, Rangers, etc. who have made big splashes right now. The Sox don't really need to do that, persay. On the other hand, I'd be over the moon if JR and Rick said "Fuck it, this is it, go sign Max for the top of the rotation, let's figure it out after, 3 years won't kill us." But we know that's not how they operate. I definitely think they are in a spot where they don't HAVE to make a splash, but damn it could have sent a message if they did. It probably is telling to their budget that they are holding out as well. A lot will also be answered by how and what the Kimbrel trade looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 1 minute ago, GreenSox said: Conforto had a .8 WAR last year. Sheets ripped RH pitching. Don't have enough young talent to spare for these trades for players with 1 or 2 years left on their contracts (especially with the As). Use free agency, please. I don’t get what you’re trying to say in regard to Conforto & Sheets and why you’re basing everything off of 2021. Conforto has an elite track record against RHP, Sheets does not. Conforto can actually play a solid RF, Sheets can not. They are remotely comparable RF options. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Alot of players have signed within the last week...Can someone explain to me why I should be excited about getting Conforto when it seems that other teams are not in on him? I know very little about him and am not against the guy but just curious why he is still on the market with seemingly very little interest if he is that desirable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I am just going to say this outloud. The Sox lack of activity so far tells me that they have a heavy belief that the deals will be better after the CBA gets done and this is why they have the lack of urgency to get it done. There are many possible inferences for their lack of activity. You've listed one of them. Another is they totally misread the market. A third is they are content to play in the shallow end of the pool. I'm guessing some combo of 2/3 are more likely than the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 4 minutes ago, wegner said: Alot of players have signed within the last week...Can someone explain to me why I should be excited about getting Conforto when it seems that other teams are not in on him? I know very little about him and am not against the guy but just curious why he is still on the market with seemingly very little interest if he is that desirable? there are lots of players on the market though. Not sure it says anything about correa, seager,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, fathom said: A quiet day today would be very helpful Not for us fans it won't be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 35 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Report last night was that deals needed to be agreed to today in order to be finalized by the end of the CBA. It was the writer's opinion but not necessarily a fact. For example...we already know a great deal about Rodon's health. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, bmags said: there are lots of players on the market though. Not sure it says anything about correa, seager,etc. Correa and Seagar seem to be linked to alot of teams with interest....I'm not seeing that with Conforto so that just makes me a little leery....I guess our recent lack of success in RF has me more sceptical of any moves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, poppysox said: It was the writer's opinion but not necessarily a fact. For example...we already know a great deal about Rodon's health. Never said it was fact, but rather to answer the question of the previous poster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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