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26 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

2.1 WAR for close to minimum seems like a good deal especially for a team that is always concerned about budget.

Yep, Heuer and his contract would look great as well Sox uniform as well. 

Smart teams keep salary controlled players. Half the board wants to dump Vaughn to save Jerry cash, and sign Conforto and dump yet another first round selection as compensation.

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46 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said:

Leury Garcia was worth 2.0 fWAR last year, so that's how easily it's found. 

Compare salaries. If the White Sox actually did this enough, and not freak out and waste 6-8 million so many times, they may actually have the money to play at the top of the market. They squander so much every season in that price range. 

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26 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Compare salaries. If the White Sox actually did this enough, and not freak out and waste 6-8 million so many times, they may actually have the money to play at the top of the market. They squander so much every season in that price range. 

Heck, the White Sox got an enormous return from a signing at that level. Almost so much that it offsets a lot of those signings.

My problem continues to be that they did so many of them in 2019 and 2020, and gave up players in the process. This is where the $50 million+ they added in 2019 while also giving up Narvaez or going for Mazara is coming back to sting.

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6 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

Do you have a link to the tweet?

 

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It was Semien not Conforto. He’s said nothing about Conforto that I can find.
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33 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

Compare salaries. If the White Sox actually did this enough, and not freak out and waste 6-8 million so many times, they may actually have the money to play at the top of the market. They squander so much every season in that price range. 

Kenny found those guys in 2004-2005. Hahn is not capable of finding multiple players in this mode.

Bulls are solid and on the right track a few years after new leadership. Hopefully Sox fans will be in the same position later this decade with Michael or a new Ownership group, including a new front office and manager / coaching staff.

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Do the White Sox need to move Kimbrel's salary before making any additional moves?

Are they now hoping the market will move in their favor after a few of these teams have been so aggressive? This could go well beyond the upcoming artificial deadline of the lockout....

Is it possible that the White Sox see their team as much better than the fans do? They signed a relief pitcher to step into the bullpen, it was only a year ago and Andrew Vaughn was considered a top #5 prospect....maybe with the combination of him and Sheets, they think they have options already here and a full rotation in place.

It certainly appears that they are operating with a tighter budget that we are hoping a team as good as the White Sox are, but this could all be for not, if they surprise us with a significant move, and many of the OF targets linked to them are still available.

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3 minutes ago, spiderman said:

Do the White Sox need to move Kimbrel's salary before making any additional moves?

Are they now hoping the market will move in their favor after a few of these teams have been so aggressive? This could go well beyond the upcoming artificial deadline of the lockout....

Is it possible that the White Sox see their team as much better than the fans do? They signed a relief pitcher to step into the bullpen, it was only a year ago and Andrew Vaughn was considered a top #5 prospect....maybe with the combination of him and Sheets, they think they have options already here and a full rotation in place.

It certainly appears that they are operating with a tighter budget that we are hoping a team as good as the White Sox are, but this could all be for not, if they surprise us with a significant move, and many of the OF targets linked to them are still available.

Hahn has already stated they have the financial flexibility to add one larger signing and that doesn’t require them moving Kimbrel.

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