MiddleCoastBias Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, bmags said: So I exported the BP Catcher Stats and sorted them by the Free agent catchers. Here's some good-to-knows (this is 2021 only) Best FA catchers rated at blocking: Yan Gomez (.4 Blocking Runs) Roberto Peres (.2 Blocking Runs) Alex Avila (.2 Blocking runs) Austin Romine (.1 Blocking runs) Sandy Leon (.1 Blocking Runs For Context: Yaz 0.0 so...uh err Seby -0.2 Zack -0.6 Best rated at Throwing out runners Kurt Suzuki - 0.3 Wilson Ramos - 0.1 Stephen Vogt - 0.1 Jose Lobaton - 0.1 For Context: Zack Collins - 0.4 Yaz - 0.1 Seby - 0.0 (BP takes into account Best rated at Framing Maldonado - 2.3 Vogt - 1.7 Knapp - 1.2 Mathis - 0.7 Vaille - 0.1 For Context: Yaz - 3.1 Seby - 0.7 Zack - -10.1 Overall Defensive Adjustment Maldonado - 1.8 Vogt - 1.8 Knapp - 0.4 (Yaz was 3.2, Seby 0.0) Offensive wRC+ for those catchers: Maldonado - 63 (steamer projection - 73) Vogt - 64 (steamer projection - 83) Knapp - 17 (steamer projection - 72) (Seby - 66 with steamer projection of 60) Robinson Chirinos has a negative CDA of 0.3 (essentially he is completely average in all categories) with a wRC last year of 108 and a steamer of 85. I think looking at this, you are probably best off throwing ST invites at Chirinos, but maybe a ML deal to Vogt. There would be good reason to go after Yan Gomez, he provides nearly average offense and good blocking, but BP hates his framing and throwing, which could be an issue. Curious, where was Maldonado in throwing out runners? I was under the impression that he was strong/elite in this category and expected to see him here. Actually, for how the broadcasts played up his defensive specialist role throughout the playoffs, kind of expected to see him topping all of these defensive metrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 6 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Curious, where was Maldonado in throwing out runners? I was under the impression that he was strong/elite in this category and expected to see him here. Actually, for how the broadcasts played up his defensive specialist role throughout the playoffs, kind of expected to see him topping all of these defensive metrics. I mean, he probably is, but he was -0.3 here. I don't know, I think BP is the most critical at appraising their catching stats year over year and trying to verify so I take them with the most validity. However, I'd venture to rely more on the fact that Maldonado is very good at defense. That said, you look at the top catchers and Salvy is amazing in these, so it clearly is aligned decently and Maldonado had a lot of chances. No idea, but I think we'd be happy if we signed Maldonado. My personal preference is to go Chirinos/Perez battle for backup. I'm a big believer that we have a Major Leaguer in Carlos Perez, not a starter, but a guy we can have on our bench for a long time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, bmags said: I mean, he probably is, but he was -0.3 here. I don't know, I think BP is the most critical at appraising their catching stats year over year and trying to verify so I take them with the most validity. However, I'd venture to rely more on the fact that Maldonado is very good at defense. That said, you look at the top catchers and Salvy is amazing in these, so it clearly is aligned decently and Maldonado had a lot of chances. No idea, but I think we'd be happy if we signed Maldonado. My personal preference is to go Chirinos/Perez battle for backup. I'm a big believer that we have a Major Leaguer in Carlos Perez, not a starter, but a guy we can have on our bench for a long time. I believe Maldonado signed a contract extension early last season with the Astros. They also have a catching prospect who should arrive this year so they are a good match for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 I can't believe Avila is still cashing checks as a catcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I believe Maldonado signed a contract extension early last season with the Astros. They also have a catching prospect who should arrive this year so they are a good match for him. He's definitely a FA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, bmags said: He's definitely a FA. He signed a one year deal with a team option for 2023 and a buyout. https://apnews.com/article/sports-mlb-baseball-health-coronavirus-pandemic-b6ab1dc3e08dea32f4a30cb63850d8b5 Edited November 16, 2021 by maloney.adam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 18 minutes ago, bmags said: He's definitely a FA. He signed a one year extension early last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Christ what is the point of these salary web sites if they can't get basic shit like this updated 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Free Agent Target: Chris Taylor...for '21, 48 starts in center field, 33 at second base, 19 at shortstop, 16 in left, and nine at third. It could be we don't sign a corner OF'er AND 2B. Taylor provides the versatility to fill in where needed. Not left handed but extremally versatile and productive. FG suggests 4yrs/$60M should do the trick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: I can't believe Avila is still cashing checks as a catcher He retired….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleedawg Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 25 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: He retired….. then cross him off the list... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 29 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: He retired….. My post applies to the prior three seasons too lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Wasn't he the guy who got traded by his dad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 3 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: Wasn't he the guy who got traded by his dad? Can't remember if he was traded or non tendered, but either way his dad was either asst GM or GM, yea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 When Boomers twitter. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 Just now, southsider2k5 said: When Boomers twitter. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ChiSox59 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: What is this in context to, exactly? And who is Michael Stillman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 14 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: What is this in context to, exactly? And who is Michael Stillman? He’s responding to Moncada Armada’s tweet that it’s a possibility. Just speculation. He’s a poster on here. I probably should’ve put this in the offseason thread but didn’t know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 30 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Giolito is going to be north of $200 million assuming his historic level of health and ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 26 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Giolito is going to be north of $200 million assuming his historic level of health and ability. Is Giolitio (as of today), extension really that much different than Berrios? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 TA obviously playing insider and revealing that we will be getting the big fish. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 My perfect off-season.. sign stroman to a 5 yr deal extend giolitto sign conforto to a few year deal 2b is very tough… ideally id get seager or story but that’s not going to happen. Semiem would be good to, but ud rather not spend high money on him. So maybe chris taylor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, iWiN4PreP said: My perfect off-season.. sign stroman to a 5 yr deal extend giolitto sign conforto to a few year deal 2b is very tough… ideally id get seager or story but that’s not going to happen. Semiem would be good to, but ud rather not spend high money on him. So maybe chris taylor? Stroman will never pitch for TLR. The end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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