hi8is Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, maloney.adam said: I don’t even understand what that first tweet means. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, hi8is said: I don’t even understand what that first tweet means. Max Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, hi8is said: I don’t even understand what that first tweet means. Zach Greinke to the Sox, CONFIRMED Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, fathom said: Max They're willing to sign someone to a ~35M+ AAV deal but weren't willing to gamble on a minuscule chance Carlos accepts the QO? I suppose that's possible, but it's giving this front office quite the benefit of the doubt and expecting them to thread the worlds tightest needle if that is indeed the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Zach Greinke to the Sox, CONFIRMED Man if they settle for that. I don’t know. I think he would be worse than Verlander. Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, maloney.adam said: Man if they settle for that. I don’t know. They won’t and it’s absolutely not the teammate they’re referring to. Greinke hates it in Chicago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 They're quite obviously teasing Scherzer. Nobody's buying it yet. One positive is just no way it drags on and on like Machado or even Wheeler. Kind of ironic that Wheeler would have been perfect for the Sox while the Phillies still might never make the playoffs even with him and Harper winning Cy Young and MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, fathom said: Max Stassi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, caulfield12 said: They're quite obviously teasing Scherzer. Nobody's buying it yet. One positive is just no way it drags on and on like Machado or even Wheeler. Kind of ironic that Wheeler would have been perfect for the Sox while the Phillies still might never make the playoffs even with him and Harper winning Cy Young and MVP. Wheeler made a quick decision....Scherzer won’t sign for a while it appears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: They won’t and it’s absolutely not the teammate they’re referring to. Greinke hates it in Chicago I just learned from baseball reference that Robbie Ray was on the 2014 Tigers. Not that I’m implying I think the Sox are in on him. They’re more likely to sign me than Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Quin said: Stassi Kepler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, fathom said: They won’t and it’s absolutely not the teammate they’re referring to. Greinke hates it in Chicago Yeah. They are referring to Mad Max! Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Well, I guessed his contract exactly in my roster resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 1 hour ago, maloney.adam said: You know who it is. His name has been mentioned by a couple posters on here and someone with knowledge of what the FO is thinking. Lol Who? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Snopek said: I just learned from baseball reference that Robbie Ray was on the 2014 Tigers. Not that I’m implying I think the Sox are in on him. They’re more likely to sign me than Ray. It would be insane to let Rodon go to buy extremely high on Ray...when he will likely never repeat that performance. Plus, White Sox definitely looking at 1-2+ (option) year guys. Edited November 17, 2021 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who? Max Edited November 17, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: It would be insane to let Rodon go to buy extremely high on Ray...when he will likely never repeat that performance. Plus, White Sox definitely looking at 1-2+ (option) year guys. My god, if the Sox thought for one second they were going to get 2021 first half Rodon in 2022, they would have offered him the QO. You, and others, really have to stop thinking of it as not willing to simply pay him 18 million if he returned and more about what they think he has left in the tank. Frankly, it’s gotten just as annoying to see in every post as the Kimbrel decision. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: They're willing to sign someone to a ~35M+ AAV deal but weren't willing to gamble on a minuscule chance Carlos accepts the QO? I suppose that's possible, but it's giving this front office quite the benefit of the doubt and expecting them to thread the worlds tightest needle if that is indeed the case. Which is why we should wait and see what they do this offseason or what kind of contract Rodon gets before we declare them idiots. If they have higher hopes than Carlos for that last rotation spot, then it probably wasn’t worth offering him the QO if there was any level of risk he would accept. Also, who is to say Carlos wouldn’t have pulled a Thor by trying to get a quick deal and then using the QO as a fallback if he couldn’t pass a physical? We just don’t have enough info right now to say it was a stupid decision or not. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 Woops guess I was wrong he got 2 for 50 basically. But I was right he’d get more than $20M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: It would be insane to let Rodon go to buy extremely high on Ray...when he will likely never repeat that performance. Plus, White Sox definitely looking at 1-2+ (option) year guys. Right, hence my bit about me being a more likely signing than Ray. I was just surprised to learn that he was on that Tigers team. For the record, I’d definitely be willing to sign for 1 year + option. And you’re definitely not buying high on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Read above. Max. Can I guess, I’m going to be asked this same question again. Lol Oh, I thought you were saying you knew who Portillo’s was. I get he’s alluding to Max in his Tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Which is why we should wait and see what they do this offseason or what kind of contract Rodon gets before we declare them idiots. If they have higher hopes than Carlos for that last rotation spot, then it probably wasn’t worth offering him the QO if there was any level of risk he would accept. Also, who is to say Carlos wouldn’t have pulled a Thor by trying to get a quick deal and then using the QO as a fallback if he couldn’t pass a physical? We just don’t have enough info right now to say it was a stupid decision or not. The contract for Rodon isn't even nearly as big of a deal as his health in 22. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, fathom said: My god, if the Sox thought for one second they were going to get 2021 first half Rodon in 2022, they would have offered him the QO. You, and others, really have to stop thinking of it as not willing to simply pay him 18 million if he returned and more about what they think he has left in the tank. Frankly, it’s gotten just as annoying to see in every post as the Kimbrel decision. Great post. There is definitely a method to their madness and they didn’t pass on offering Rodon the QO because they didn’t want to spend $18.4M on a 5 win pitcher. Health and/or regression obviously played a huge role in their decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 6 minutes ago, fathom said: My god, if the Sox thought for one second they were going to get 2021 first half Rodon in 2022, they would have offered him the QO. You, and others, really have to stop thinking of it as not willing to simply pay him 18 million if he returned and more about what they think he has left in the tank. Frankly, it’s gotten just as annoying to see in every post as the Kimbrel decision. 99.7...if he maxed out at 92-93 in that playoff start, nobody would be disagreeing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Great post. There is definitely a method to their madness and they didn’t pass on offering Rodon the QO because they didn’t want to spend $18.4M on a 5 win pitcher. Health and/or regression obviously played a huge role in their decision. And even if they brought back Rodon for 18 million in 2022, the same posters would freak out about their lack of pitching depth once Rodon gets injured again 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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