bmags Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Shall we talk about Jimmys article? https://www.southsidesox.com/2021/11/20/22789368/white-sox-dont-cross-scott-boras-clients-off-of-your-holiday-list?utm_campaign=southsidesox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, bmags said: Shall we talk about Jimmys article? https://www.southsidesox.com/2021/11/20/22789368/white-sox-dont-cross-scott-boras-clients-off-of-your-holiday-list?utm_campaign=southsidesox&utm_content=chorus&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter This author has no idea what he's talking about 1 1 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 20, 2021 Author Share Posted November 20, 2021 Just now, Y2Jimmy0 said: This author has no idea what he's talking about I thought it was interesting how you targeted Seager as the best fit Sox are going to land for those that won’t read the article this sentence is not true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This author has no idea what he's talking about Agreed. Parkman already told us the Sox won't be spending. Author is clearly a dope. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Scherzer at $30M/year would be the biggest no brainer of all time, just worried he’s gets much closer to $40M a year. Regardless, I like the way Tony is thinking here! After him, give me Conforto over Semien. I love Marcus, but I’d rather invest big dollars in RF and a guy who has a longer tracker record of hitting RHP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: This author has no idea what he's talking about James - Great stuff as usual! Where do you see the payroll ultimately landing? Around $180M or so? I know the article is about us landing one impact free agent, but does that change if we can move Kimbrel? What if we can dump Keuchel on someone while eating $8M or less? Just wondering if there could be room for two sizable additions or if I’m getting way too greedy as usual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 I don't see any way that it's like Semien and Conforto. I think one is possible and then they figure out the rest. Payroll might be between $190 and $200 million honestly. I'm just not sure how it's not with one big addition. I'm as surprised as everyone else, trust me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I don't see any way that it's like Semien and Conforto. I think one is possible and then they figure out the rest. Payroll might be between $190 and $200 million honestly. I'm just not sure how it's not with one big addition. I'm as surprised as everyone else, trust me. $190M plus?! Oh shit. Thanks for sharing bud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 (edited) The idea floated here, which has Kimbrel going to the Phillies for Segura, makes some sense. Dombrowski is prioritizing a closer, so it is probably a realistic possibility. Segura is owed $14.25 million this year, with a $17 million team option for next season. He would give the Sox a high OBP, good defensive second baseman, who could play SS, if Anderson gets injured. Not having the baggage of a long term contract would free up salary for Conforto, who would fill the hole in RF and the need for more LH power. The best part is that those two moves would still leave room to acquire a top of the rotation starter and bullpen help. If the article's claim that Mr. Reinsdorf is ready to spend money is true, this scenario would be a reasonable allocation of those additional funds.. Edited November 20, 2021 by Lillian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Good read. Well done, Jimmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snopek Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 “Loud wrong” is such a great way to describe Nightengale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Good article Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 56 minutes ago, Lillian said: The idea floated here, which has Kimbrel going to the Phillies for Segura, makes some sense. Dombrowski is prioritizing a closer, so it is probably a realistic possibility. Segura is owed $14.25 million this year, with a $17 million team option for next season. He would give the Sox a high OBP, good defensive second baseman, who could play SS, if Anderson gets injured. Not having the baggage of a long term contract would free up salary for Conforto, who would fill the hole in RF and the need for more LH power. The best part is that those two moves would still leave room to acquire a top of the rotation starter and bullpen help. If the article's claim that Mr. Reinsdorf is ready to spend money is true, this scenario would be a reasonable allocation of those additional funds.. No on Segura. We need quality LH hitter at both RF and 2B spots. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Why am I not credited for the Joey Wendle idea I love the idea of Conforto and Ryan McMahon. McMahon was incredible defensively at 2nd last year in a small sample size. Problem is Rockies seem to want to keep him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 You had my curiosity… now you have my attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 28 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: No on Segura. We need quality LH hitter at both RF and 2B spots. Well, I guess someone here is even more concerned than I am, about the lack of LH hitters in the Sox organization. I'm glad to know that, and yes, I've favored the Escobar and Conforto suggestion, but that doesn't solve unloading Kimbrel. Nevertheless, I hear you and I won't disagree. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 49 minutes ago, fathom said: Why am I not credited for the Joey Wendle idea I love the idea of Conforto and Ryan McMahon. McMahon was incredible defensively at 2nd last year in a small sample size. Problem is Rockies seem to want to keep him. Not to be a hater, but I don’t get the Wendle love. Great glove but the bat leaves a lot to be desired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Not to be a hater, but I don’t get the Wendle love. Great glove but the bat leaves a lot to be desired. I don’t love Wendle either, just seems like a move both teams would make Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 58 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: No on Segura. We need quality LH hitter at both RF and 2B spots. You just can't say no to Segura if he is the highest quality player to fill a hole in order to get the best value for Kimbrel. He's a pretty good ball player. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 Conforto is a realistic get. Semien is pushing it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Conforto is a realistic get. Semien is pushing it. Why do I feel like I’ve heard you say this before? Oh… that’s right… it’s because you already have… about 600 times. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, hi8is said: Why do I feel like I’ve heard you say this before? Oh… that’s right… it’s because you already have… about 600 times. I thought we were going dumpster diving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmy U Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 2 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: You just can't say no to Segura if he is the highest quality player to fill a hole in order to get the best value for Kimbrel. He's a pretty good ball player. I just don’t get why you take the risk to pick up the option if what you get back is another bad contract on a low upside guy who’s on the down slope of his career. Nonzero chance that Segura’s decline becomes steep in the next year. Just don’t pick up the option and use the money to sign a second baseman. I hope the Sox are smarter than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, Timmy U said: I just don’t get why you take the risk to pick up the option if what you get back is another bad contract on a low upside guy who’s on the down slope of his career. Nonzero chance that Segura’s decline becomes steep in the next year. Just don’t pick up the option and use the money to sign a second baseman. I hope the Sox are smarter than this. Didn't the Sox already pick up Kimbrel's option ? Pretty sure they did so apparently the plan is to trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted November 20, 2021 Share Posted November 20, 2021 It makes zero sense to pickup Kimbrels option then trade him for Segura, when you could have declined his option and just signed Escobar for $8-$10m and spent the difference elsewhere. My guess is that whatever conversations they've had about Kimbrel include others coming from the Sox to sweeten the return. I'd love to get McMahon but the Rockies are such an odd team, who knows if they'd even trade him. If they had half a brain they would have traded Gray, Story and others at last years trade deadline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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