Chicago White Sox Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Wander Franco extension also nearing completion. Man we got lucky with Robert. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bmags Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Wander Franco extension also nearing completion. Man we got lucky with Robert. did we? How many years did we buy out? I thought we just got 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bmags said: did we? How many years did we buy out? I thought we just got 1 Yeah, maybe not. In reality it was just one year of free agency. Edited November 23, 2021 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 7 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Are we believing Hector today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, bmags said: did we? How many years did we buy out? I thought we just got 1 That extension happened because the KW/Hahn era had nothing to lose. In a vacuum, if Robert was a failure they likely aren't around to deal with the fallout. If he is a superstar they get one prime year for 20 million (which obviously is so valuable it would be difficult to calculate). Because Robert got such a monster signing bonus I was downright shocked when this deal went down. Never fully understood either side's motivation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, GREEDY said: That extension happened because the KW/Hahn era had nothing to lose. In a vacuum, if Robert was a failure they likely aren't around to deal with the fallout. If he is a superstar they get one prime year for 20 million (which obviously is so valuable it would be difficult to calculate). Because Robert got such a monster signing bonus I was downright shocked when this deal went down. Never fully understood either side's motivation. This is a take. These deals save teams a TON of money during these deals. Sure some guys fail, but this contract was not going to hurt the Sox. That is comical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Multiple reports, this preceded Hector’s. Looks legit. Congratulations to both sides. Hopefully for Tampa fans, they don’t try to dump his salary after 1-2 seasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 22 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Are we believing Hector today Can't wait for him to say we are close to signing Nelson Cruz! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This is a take. These deals save teams a TON of money during these deals. Sure some guys fail, but this contract was not going to hurt the Sox. That is comical. These deals? I'm talking about only the Robert deal. It was an exact projection of his earnings through 2026 and 20 million for 2027 in exchange for all of it being guaranteed. As bullish as everyone is on Robert (and I 100% understand how uncalculably high the value of 2027 year could be) I'm not sure it was quite the slam dunk that our meatball fans believed. Also, figuring that Robert had received 25 million (set for life money) previously I'm not sure why he was willing to do the deal either. Definitely not a comical take. Edited November 23, 2021 by GREEDY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 26 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: Are we believing Hector today 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Can't wait for him to say we are close to signing Nelson Cruz! I figured that some people here would get a kick out of a Hector tweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 No way he stays with Tampa for this whole contract. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 12 minutes ago, GREEDY said: These deals? I'm talking about only the Robert deal. It was an exact projection of his earnings through 2026 and 20 million for 2027 in exchange for all of it being guaranteed. As bullish as everyone is on Robert (and I 100% understand how uncalculably high the value of 2027 year could be) I'm not sure it was quite the slam dunk that our meatball fans believed. Also, figuring that Robert had received 25 million (set for life money) previously I'm not sure why he was willing to do the deal either. Definitely not a comical take. If you understand what a superstars arb and free agent years look like, you understand why this take is comical. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 10 minutes ago, Quin said: No way he stays with Tampa for this whole contract. yes he does. he becomes the face of the franchise...and probably the league in 3-4 years. this deal kinda keeps him there long term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Passan said Franco is going to be a Ray for a long time. Maybe. I still think Tampa is a very shaky franchise and they may not be in Tampa as long as Franco's contract. Attendance isn't everything but both Miami and Tampa do not attract fans for baseball regardless of indoor stadiums or success on the field. Sounds like the Montreal Ice Fish /Tampa Bat Rays marriage could happen any day. https://www.tampabay.com/sports/rays/2021/11/16/the-rays-flirtation-with-montreal-could-become-a-true-romance-this-week/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2012 Rays do an extension with Longoria for 6 years, $100 million that would have kept him in Tampa thru 2023. 2017 Tampa trades him to the Giants, with cash, for a bunch of guys who never really contribute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, EloyJenkins said: yes he does. he becomes the face of the franchise...and probably the league in 3-4 years. this deal kinda keeps him there long term. Ok, cool. They'll trade him like previous face of the franchise Evan Longoria. Or Blake Snell. They're the Rays. As for the league, hoo boy. Man had a great rookie year, but we've seen people crash and burn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 27 minutes ago, Quin said: No way he stays with Tampa for this whole contract. In fact this makes him evenore tradeable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) Largest contracts by team: Total Contract (Years Year Signed) Last WS Los Angeles N.L.: Mookie Betts $365M (12 2020) 2020 Los Angeles A.L.: Mike Trout $360M (10 2019) 2002 New York N.L.: Francisco Lindor $341M (10 2021) 1986 San Diego: Fernando Tatis Jr. $340M (14 2021) Expansion 1969 - N.L. Pennant 1998 Philadelphia: Bryce Harper $330M (13 2019) 2008 Miami: Giancarlo Stanton $325M (13 2015) 2003 New York A.L.: Gerrit Cole $324M (9 2020) 2009 Texas: Alex Rodriguez $252M (10 2001) Expansion 1961 - A.L. Pennant 2011 Detroit: Miguel Cabrera $248M (8 2014) 1984 Washington: Steven Strausburg $245M (7 2020) 2019 Seattle: Robinson Cano $240M (10 2014) Expansion 1977 - A.L. West 2001 Colorado: Nolan Arenado $234M (7 2019) Expansion 1993 - N.L. Pennant 2007 Cincinnati: Joey Votto $225M (10 2012) 1990 Boston: David Price $217M (7 2016) 2018 Arizona: Zack Greinke $206.5M (6 2016) 2001 Milwaukee: Christian Yelich $188.5M (7 2020) Expansion Seattle Pilots 1969 - A.L. Pennant 1982 Tampa Bay: Wander Franco $185M (11 2022) Expansion 1998 - A.L. Pennant 2020 (Evan Longoria $100M (6 2013) previous highest) Minnesota: Joe Mauer $184M (8 2010) 1991 Chicago N.L.: Jason Heyward $184M (8 2016) 2016 San Francisco: Buster Posey $167M (8 2013) 2014 Baltimore: Chris Davis $161M (7 2016) 1983 Houston: Jose Altuve $151M (5 2018) 2017 Toronto: George Springer $150M (6 2021) 1993 Atlanta: Freddie Freeman $135M (8 2014) 2021 Saint Louis: Paul Goldschmidt $130M (5 2019) 2011 Kansas City: Salvador Perez $82M (4 2021) 2015 Chicago A.L.: Yasmani Grandal $73M (4 2020) 2005 Oakland: Eric Chavez $66M (6 2004) 1989 Cleveland: Edwin Encarnacion $60M (3 2017) 1948 Pittsburgh: Andrew McCutchen $51.5M (6 2012) 1979 Edited November 23, 2021 by South Side Hit Men Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Oh man, even Tampa is ponying up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said: Largest contracts by team: Total Contract (Years Year Signed) Last WS Los Angeles N.L.: Mookie Betts $365M (12 2020) 2020 Los Angeles A.L.: Mike Trout $360M (10 2019) 2002 New York N.L.: Francisco Lindor $341M (10 2021) 1986 San Diego: Fernando Tatis Jr. $340M (14 2021) Expansion 1969 - N.L. Pennant 1998 Philadelphia: Bryce Harper $330M (13 2019) 2008 Miami: Giancarlo Stanton $325M (13 2015) 2003 New York A.L.: Gerrit Cole $324M (9 2020) 2009 Texas: Alex Rodriguez $252M (10 2001) Expansion 1961 - A.L. Pennant 2011 Detroit: Miguel Cabrera $248M (8 2014) 1984 Washington: Steven Strausburg $245M (7 2020) 2019 Seattle: Robinson Cano $240M (10 2014) Expansion 1977 - A.L. West 2001 Colorado: Nolan Arenado $234M (7 2019) Expansion 1993 - N.L. Pennant 2007 Cincinnati: Joey Votto $225M (10 2012) 1990 Boston: David Price $217M (7 2016) 2018 Arizona: Zack Greinke $206.5M (6 2016) 2001 Milwaukee: Christian Yelich $188.5M (7 2020) Expansion Seattle Pilots 1969 - A.L. Pennant 1982 Tampa Bay: Wander Franco $185M (11 2022) Expansion 1998 - A.L. Pennant 2020 (Evan Longoria $100M (6 2013) previous highest) Minnesota: Joe Mauer $184M (8 2010) 1991 Chicago N.L.: Jason Heyward $184M (8 2016) 2016 San Francisco: Buster Posey $167M (8 2013) 2014 Baltimore: Chris Davis $161M (7 2016) 1983 Houston: Jose Altuve $151M (5 2018) 2017 Toronto: George Springer $150M (6 2021) 1993 Atlanta: Freddie Freeman $135M (8 2014) 2021 Saint Louis: Paul Goldschmidt $130M (5 2019) 2011 Kansas City: Salvador Perez $82M (4 2021) 2015 Chicago A.L.: Yasmani Grandal $73M (4 2020) 2005 Oakland: Eric Chavez $66M (6 2004) 1989 Cleveland: Edwin Encarnacion $60M (3 2017) 1948 Pittsburgh: Andrew McCutchen $51.5M (6 2012) 1979 What a pathetic list. JR should be embarrassed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: What a pathetic list. JR should be embarrassed. Will Jerry play Santa Claus this offseason and move the Sox all the way up to 26th? Magic 8-Ball says: 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 there will be a salary floor most likely in the new CBA. Wander is gonna be a Ray for as long as they are competitive....which based on their philosophies will be a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T R U Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: What a pathetic list. JR should be embarrassed. No one should be surprised by this. And its not even just JR, you could make the case that this franchise is one of the most futile in MLB history. I love the White Sox and always will, but their history is staggeringly pathetic. Established in 1900. 3 Championships. 12 Playoff appearances, and 2020-2021 was the first time EVER they went back to back. Woof. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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