Colome's Hat Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I want Semien as much as the next person but we have a bigger need. We badly need a lefty Power hitter. Our right handed big bats got badly exposed in the playoffs. Thus I have a new free agent crush. Kyle Schwarber. This dude had a monster year last year and is capable of possibly having an MVP type season. Plus his versatility allows us to put him at DH, 1B, and in the outfield, which he's actually surprisingly solid. He's also just a dude that I think the fanbase would embrace. I would rather see us spend 4/85 on Schwarber and get Escobar or maybe even someone like McNeill than go all in on Semien and get stuck with a right handed power bat in the DH or outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 versatility is one way to describe it. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, Colome's Hat said: I want Semien as much as the next person but we have a bigger need. We badly need a lefty Power hitter. Our right handed big bats got badly exposed in the playoffs. Thus I have a new free agent crush. Kyle Schwarber. This dude had a monster year last year and is capable of possibly having an MVP type season. Plus his versatility allows us to put him at DH, 1B, and in the outfield, which he's actually surprisingly solid. He's also just a dude that I think the fanbase would embrace. I would rather see us spend 4/85 on Schwarber and get Escobar or maybe even someone like McNeill than go all in on Semien and get stuck with a right handed power bat in the DH or outfield. Buying at the market high for Schwarber without considering all the reasons the Cubs basically gave up on him...will end up with the White Sox following the same ultimate descent as the Northsiders. With Sheets and Grandal on the roster, we're just not going to spend that much money on the DH position...especially if they add a legit veteran catcher to really share the load with Yasmani. Including Collins, we already have 5-6 DH types on this team, as is. Why would would we keep spending FA money instead of addressing RF, 2B and the starting rotation? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, ShoeLessRob said: versatility is one way to describe it. That was my reaction too, lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Multiple left handed savages are a necessity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Cubs gave up on Schwarber because there was no DH in the NL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colome's Hat Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 5 minutes ago, fathom said: Cubs gave up on Schwarber because there was no DH in the NL And also he needed a change of scenery. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, fathom said: Cubs gave up on Schwarber because there was no DH in the NL They gave up on him because Tommy Boy was scared of Daddy and biblical losses. It was strickly a money decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 But does anyone realistically expect even $1 will be spent specifically on the DH spot by Hahn this offseason? You can argue Conforto, Taylor, Escobar or Segura would get SOME At-bats there, but far from the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, ShoeLessRob said: versatility is one way to describe it. Tim is probably a better catcher than Schwarber. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Can I haz a cheeseburger? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Can't SHEETS be ......SCHWARBER? I'm out on Siemien....not sold. I want CASTELLANOS in RF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Schwarber's bat would fit in to this lineup probably better than anyone else I can think if. But the Sox don't need a DH, and isn't his range in the OF terrible? I know he has a cannon of an arm, but they really need to get some better defense. Otherwise I'd want Castellanos, who also is poor in the OF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 7 hours ago, 2Deep said: Can't SHEETS be ......SCHWARBER? I'm out on Siemien....not sold. I want CASTELLANOS in RF I agree with you on Sheets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I would give sheets a chance, if they get a lefty bat I want a real outfielder and not a corner of/DH type like schwarber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 17 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: I would give sheets a chance, if they get a lefty bat I want a real outfielder and not a corner of/DH type like schwarber Amen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 what kind of deal do you think he will get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 The Sox plan to give room for Vaughn and Sheets to play. They are more likely to address 2b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 10 hours ago, 2Deep said: Can't SHEETS be ......SCHWARBER? No. No he can not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I saw a lot of Boston games and they tried to "hide" him at 1B. He struggled there defensively although he never played it much because of Rizzo in Cubworld. Understnading the Sox are limited in shifts, teams that are shift reliant tend to expose !B who struggle w range. Not like the old days where a guy didn't have much ground to cover. I think Schwarber is a DH with a good LF bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, pcq said: The Sox plan to give room for Vaughn and Sheets to play. They are more likely to address 2b. Agreed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 12 hours ago, 2Deep said: Can't SHEETS be ......SCHWARBER? I'm out on Siemien....not sold. I want CASTELLANOS in RF Ok, no Sheets cannot be Schwarber. At age 25, Schwarber walked nearly 80 times in just over 500 PAs. Same age this year Sheets was on pace for 40. So, Schwarber has a better approach and Sheets can’t change that very easily. But, as a 25 year old, Sheets hit 22 home runs in just over 400 PAs, half at AAA. At that same age Schwarber hit 26 in just over 500. Sheets has also hit more HR every year since he was drafted so he is also improving his power game. Prior to this year Schwarber’s best OPS was .871, then he added another 50 points this year. Sheets was at .830 this year. Could Sheets improve on that by age 28? Sure. Could he also fall off? Yes. But he’s young enough and showed enough this year to think he’s a decent enough DH candidate to get a shot this year. Could either of them fill the RF hole? Personally I think Sheets is a bit worse out there than Schwarber but they’re both bad enough it hardly matters. You would be hiding either of them out there and praying the ball went somewhere else. Both should be at DH. Schwarber is almost certainly an upgrade on Sheets this year and probably 2023. How much of an upgrade - was this a career year for Schwarber and can Sheets improve on last year are the questions for that. Is Schwarber worth $20 million a year more than Sheets? Since neither of them can play RF reliably, that’s one I struggle to justify. Put Sheets at DH and find someone who can catch the ball or a pitcher who strikes out enough guys for RF to matter less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 If Schwarber was a 1 year deal, maybe. Four years and $80 million, no way. The best way to get a LH power bat is through a trade. Conforto also will be too expensive in both years and dollars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Ok, no Sheets cannot be Schwarber. At age 25, Schwarber walked nearly 80 times in just over 500 PAs. Same age this year Sheets was on pace for 40. So, Schwarber has a better approach and Sheets can’t change that very easily. But, as a 25 year old, Sheets hit 22 home runs in just over 400 PAs, half at AAA. At that same age Schwarber hit 26 in just over 500. Sheets has also hit more HR every year since he was drafted so he is also improving his power game. Prior to this year Schwarber’s best OPS was .871, then he added another 50 points this year. Sheets was at .830 this year. Could Sheets improve on that by age 28? Sure. Could he also fall off? Yes. But he’s young enough and showed enough this year to think he’s a decent enough DH candidate to get a shot this year. Could either of them fill the RF hole? Personally I think Sheets is a bit worse out there than Schwarber but they’re both bad enough it hardly matters. You would be hiding either of them out there and praying the ball went somewhere else. Both should be at DH. Schwarber is almost certainly an upgrade on Sheets this year and probably 2023. How much of an upgrade - was this a career year for Schwarber and can Sheets improve on last year are the questions for that. Is Schwarber worth $20 million a year more than Sheets? Since neither of them can play RF reliably, that’s one I struggle to justify. Put Sheets at DH and find someone who can catch the ball or a pitcher who strikes out enough guys for RF to matter less. Vaughn/Sheets/Engel in RF and Vaughn/Sheets/Grandal/Eloy/Abreu as DH by committee. Use available resources on 2nd base and pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 24 minutes ago, poppysox said: Vaughn/Sheets/Engel in RF and Vaughn/Sheets/Grandal/Eloy/Abreu as DH by committee. Use available resources on 2nd base and pitching. You wrote Eng*l’s name. This caused his hamstring to pop while he was sitting down for dinner. Rehab is 4 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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