KrankinSox Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/32747556/sources-expanded-playoffs-draft-lottery-proposals-cba-negotiations Summary: - 7 playoff teams from each league, 14 total - 3 Division Winners, 4 Wild Cards - #1 seed in each league gets a bye to the best-of-5 Division Series - The other two division winners pick their opponent, among the Wild Card teams, for a best-of-3 series. The unchosen Wild Card teams face off in a best-of-3. This seems like a clear money grab. It waters down the regular season for some extra playoff TV revenue. I hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The Jays and Mariners both would have made it under this proposal. But the Phillies and Reds would have too at just barely over 81 wins. 7 teams really is awarding mediocrity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 You should be in if you win your division or you win 90+ games. And yes, I still haven't let go of 2006. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Not surprised by this. I’ll be watching less postseason baseball, and the final day scoreboard watching…that’s done too. Thanks greed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Cap it at 6, 7 is just excessive 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 There just isn't enough difference between an elite team and a mediocre team, in terms of chances to win a given game, for this many teams to make sense in the playoffs in baseball, IMO. I also think it's ridiculous to expect something like this would increase spending. If you lower the talent bar necessary to make it in, you just make it more realistic for young, cheap teams to gamble on hitting on a couple breakouts to make it in. With a couple small market exceptions, bad teams already regularly spend each year on a token veteran or two to plug a big hole. I don't know what the solution is for making those teams spend, but it isn't this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Just now, Eminor3rd said: There just isn't enough difference between an elite team and a mediocre team, in terms of chances to win a given game, for this many teams to make sense in the playoffs in baseball, IMO. I also think it's ridiculous to expect something like this would increase spending. If you lower the talent bar necessary to make it in, you just make it more realistic for young, cheap teams to gamble on hitting on a couple breakouts to make it in. With a couple small market exceptions, bad teams already regularly spend each year on a token veteran or two to plug a big hole. I don't know what the solution is for making those teams spend, but it isn't this. That's what the salary floor is for. This is just to get some more money from extra playoff games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 awful proposal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 C.R.E.A.M 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: C.R.E.A.M Jerry with more dolla dolla bills y'all! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Please don't expand baseball playoffs. Its what makes it better than all the other major sports that half the league doesn't get in. Don't fix what isn't broken. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 Yuck 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 (edited) Honestly, I already stopped watching the postseason if the Sox aren’t in it. A little bit here and there but I just don’t care to invest almost 4 hours in a game my team isn’t in. When I was younger I watched most games. Edited November 29, 2021 by Bob Sacamano 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 27 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: Cap it at 6, 7 is just excessive Better yet, cap it at three, bottom two division winners play best of three or five, winner faces top seed, home seed gets all home games until the World Series. If they implement this garbage, they should return to a balanced League Schedule. Since half of each league is making the playoffs, there is no competitive reason for teams in garbage divisions to have an advantage when it comes to padding their record over 18 games against each of the 1-4 tanking teams. 168 game schedule, 12 games, 6 home, 6 away, against each of the 14 other teams. Losers which would have made it under this scheme since the Wild Card Era: 1995: Baltimore 71-73 & San Diego 70-74 1997: Chicago A.L. 80-81; Detroit 79-83 1998: Chicago A.L. 80-82 1999: Seattle 79-83 & Pittsburgh 78-83 2006: Cincinnati 80-82 2014: Braves vs. Mets 79-83 play in game. 2016: Miami 79-82 2017: Three team play in game for the final two 80-82 spots: Tampa Bay, Kansas City and Los Angeles A.L. Additional White Sox teams which would have made it: 1996 (85-77); 1997 (80-81); 1998 (80-82); 2001 (83-79); 2002 (81-81); 2004 (83-79); 2006 (90-72); 2010 (88-74). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, TheTruth05 said: C.R.E.A.M Jerry is for the Children! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 38 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: There just isn't enough difference between an elite team and a mediocre team, in terms of chances to win a given game, for this many teams to make sense in the playoffs in baseball, IMO. I also think it's ridiculous to expect something like this would increase spending. If you lower the talent bar necessary to make it in, you just make it more realistic for young, cheap teams to gamble on hitting on a couple breakouts to make it in. With a couple small market exceptions, bad teams already regularly spend each year on a token veteran or two to plug a big hole. I don't know what the solution is for making those teams spend, but it isn't this. Increases overall revenue though, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
black jack Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 34 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Honestly, I already stopped watching the postseason if the Sox aren’t in it. A little bit here and there but I just don’t care to invest almost 4 hours in a game my team isn’t in. When I was younger I watched most games. I haven't watched a baseball game the Sox weren't playing in since the World Series of the Braves vs the Yankees back in the 90's. I don't love the game anymore, just the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I like it. It should minimize tanking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogosox1959 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 7 per league is reasonable compared to other leagues: NBA: 53% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFFS: 16/30 NHL: 50% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFF: 16/32 MLB PROPOSAL: 47% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFFS: 14/30 NFL: 44% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFFS: 14/32 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, gogosox1959 said: 7 per league is reasonable compared to other leagues: NBA: 53% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFFS: 16/30 NHL: 50% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFF: 16/32 MLB PROPOSAL: 47% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFFS: 14/30 NFL: 44% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFFS: 14/32 Response- 162 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, gogosox1959 said: 7 per league is reasonable compared to other leagues: NBA: 53% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFFS: 16/30 NHL: 50% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFF: 16/32 MLB PROPOSAL: 47% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFFS: 14/30 NFL: 44% OF TEAMS IN PLAYOFFS: 14/32 NBA and NHL grind out two months of playoffs to cover a six month season. NFL has a month of playoffs, with a significant advantage for the top four teams, to cover their four 1/2 month season. MLB owners are proposing a one month playoff scheme to settle a six month 162 game schedule. A World Series Champion had to win a regular season championship (League Pennant 1903-1968) or Division (1969-1993) to be eligible. Being a playoff team mattered, you had to earn a World Series over both a 162 game grind and 1-2 series against the other best teams. If this passes, it becomes a 14 team crap shoot, and degrades any value of fielding the best team possible over the 162 game season. People here were completely bored watching the Sox "rest" the final three months of the season. Now teams will "rest" throughout the entire season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reiks12 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 I wasnt as invested in the season when it was clear the sox were going to the playoffs. This would make the season so boring 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 1 hour ago, BigHurt3515 said: Cap it at 6, 7 is just excessive Five is excessive. They won't be happy until the true baseball fan says I've had enough. I remember when the best team in each league played for the World Championship. Making money is now the goal. Winning is just getting lucky for a few weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogosox1959 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 It's not just more revenue for a couple more weeks in October, it's keeping fans interested in more cities. When it was 1 team per league, there were only 8 teams in each league. Today there are 15 teams in each league. If only 1 team advanced, the season would be over for more than half the teams well before Labor Day...or sooner. With today's attention spans and competing outlets for casual fans' attention, that would be the end of baseball. .......and I am also old enough to remember going to games starting in about 1957. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 32 minutes ago, poppysox said: Five is excessive. They won't be happy until the true baseball fan says I've had enough. I remember when the best team in each league played for the World Championship. Making money is now the goal. Winning is just getting lucky for a few weeks. Making money has always been the goal. Don't let the good of days cloud your memories here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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