White Sox sign Leury Garcia to 3 year deal

[Look at Ray Ray Run]

Just now, hogan873 said:

Leury is quite valuable as a utility player.  He can play every OF position and just about every IF position.  As long as he continues to be used as a super sub, I'm fine with having him back.  The 3-year deal is a bit unexpected, but as long as the $ is lower, I'm fine with this.

I've heard this a lot, but he's not good at it. He averages less than .8 WAR per 162 games in his career. He's the definition of a replacement player. He has a career wRC+ of 80.

I expected Leury to be back, so not surprised or angry but giving him 3 guaranteed years over 5 million a year would be crazy for a guy who just isn't good. Being bad but versatile doesn't really make you valuable imo.

For a penny pinching organization they certainly love to give away 5-7 million a year to players who suck.

[fathom]

1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I’m just saying that’s the plan right now.  He is not intended to be the starting 2B and I doubt this stops us from adding a RF, but definitely worries me how big of signing we’re going to make if we just spend $6M to $7M on a utility guy.  Hopefully I’m wrong and this will be on top of adding legit players elsewhere, but this stinks of Tony La Russa heavily influencing roster decisions and overvaluing a role player when we have bigger needs.

Look at it the other way....spending 6-7 million a year on a utility player could show they are going to spend more than we think.  Too hard to tell at the moment.

[HOFHurt35]

6 minutes ago, Quin said:

Leury Garcia may end up being one of the longest tenured White Sox ever and that alone is a hysterical thought to me.

He's gonna get a statue just based on tenure. 

[ChiSox59]

4 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said:

Yep. 

Leury RF

Segura 2B.

There's our position players guys.

 

We've literally already been told he's not going to be used as an everyday starter in RF/2B, so you can stop repeating this now. 

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

Just now, ChiSox59 said:

We've literally already been told he's not going to be used as an everyday starter in RF/2B, so you can stop repeating this now. 

To be fair, we've been told a lot of things that weren't true.  People worried about him being a starter, have a right to be.

[raBBit]

Emilio Bonifacio.

[Baron]

"Report says he's staying in the same role. But the White Sox are lying he's going to play every position including pitcher!"

 

[poppysox]

Totally expected this news and am fine with it.  I hope the money is like 3 years at 3 or 4 million per year but whatever.  Every team needs a versatile player like Leury and if used properly I see him as useful.  

[fathom]

Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

To be fair, we've been told a lot of things that weren't true.  People worried about him being a starter, have a right to be.

Fegan doesn’t speculate like that unless he’s pretty sure of it

[Bob Sacamano]

2 minutes ago, whitesoxwinner said:

If leury is actually the starting second baseman...what are we even doing here? 3 year deal kind of tells me he is

 

 

1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

agreed.

Yeah I gotta see the dollars before I assume if he's likely starter or not.

[ChiSox59]

Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

To be fair, we've been told a lot of things that weren't true.  People worried about him being a starter, have a right to be.

Not really.  He was only used as a starter for part of 21 because we were absolutely riddled with injuries.  He's never been a "starter" for the Sox.  Its not Leury's fault everyone got hurt in 21 and he didn't. 

[bmags]

Nice was hoping we brought him back

[HOFHurt35]

Just no imagination by this team.  Zero.  

Great teams find "super sub"  players within the scraps of their own farm system.     They don't give 3 year deals to these types of players. 

 

[whitesoxwinner]

1 minute ago, raBBit said:

Emilio Bonifacio.

is leury our starting second baseman? 

[KrankinSox]

A 3 year deal for our playoff MVP, nice!

[DirtySox]

Sure. In the super-sub role, this is fine.

[poppysox]

4 minutes ago, fathom said:

Look at it the other way....spending 6-7 million a year on a utility player could show they are going to spend more than we think.  Too hard to tell at the moment.

I can't find a source saying 6-7 million.  Little early to panic over our wild spending ways.

[ChiSox59]

6 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I've heard this a lot, but he's not good at it. He averages less than .8 WAR per 162 games in his career. He's the definition of a replacement player. He has a career wRC+ of 80.

I expected Leury to be back, so not surprised or angry but giving him 3 guaranteed years over 5 million a year would be crazy for a guy who just isn't good. Being bad but versatile doesn't really make you valuable imo.

For a penny pinching organization they certainly love to give away 5-7 million a year to players who suck.

Werent you literally arguing like 2 hours ago that Leury is a fine bet to replicate Segura's production at 2B for 1/3 of the cost?

[Squirmin' for Yermin]

1 minute ago, HOFHurt35 said:

Just no imagination by this team.  Zero.  

Great teams find "super sub"  players within the scraps of their own farm system.     They don't give 3 year deals to these types of players. 

 

This is where I am at.  USe the 7 million elsewhere and use Romy as the super sub.  How much playing time does a super sub get in the playoff?  I'd wager, not a lot.

[South Side Hit Men]

I like him as an utility man playing 80-100 a year, mostly in the infield.

If he is their starting 2B, than Fuck You.

[Chicago White Sox]

5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

classic white sox. fill a hole with a player who is replaceable by a lot of minimum salaried players and give the player 6-7 million a year as one of their acquisitions. this is how they allocate wages.

I wouldn't even hate Garcia at 1 year, maybe with a 2nd year option... but giving him 3 guaranteed years is wild. He was fine last year, homer was great so I give him a pass somewhat, but he's not a good player. His entire career tells us that.

100% agree.  And we have Romy Gonzalez who is a Leury starter kit with a bit more upside if it all clicks.  Zero reason to spend $6M on a bench piece (for three years no less) if we can allocate those funds elsewhere.  And I get I’m in the minority on Leury, but I’m a little concerned this is a sign we’ll be “spreading the wealth” this offseason with a bunch of C tier signings.  I pray I’m overreacting, but signing Leury to a multi year deal was the last thing I wanted us to do this offseason.

[ChiSox59]

Just now, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

This is where I am at.  USe the 7 million elsewhere and use Romy as the super sub.  How much playing time does a super sub get in the playoff?  I'd wager, not a lot.

Leury is actually a good defender and provides switch hitting.  Romy provides neither.  This was such a no-brainer re-signing - no idea why half of you are up in arms.  

[HOFHurt35]

White Sox lead the world in ML contracts to relief pitchers and bench players. 

Kudos. 

[bmags]

If Romy is good we can just trade Leury. 

[ChiSoxFanMike]

9 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

I've heard this a lot, but he's not good at it. He averages less than .8 WAR per 162 games in his career. He's the definition of a replacement player. He has a career wRC+ of 80.

I expected Leury to be back, so not surprised or angry but giving him 3 guaranteed years over 5 million a year would be crazy for a guy who just isn't good. Being bad but versatile doesn't really make you valuable imo.

For a penny pinching organization they certainly love to give away 5-7 million a year to players who suck.

I’m not the biggest Leury fan in the world but this is misleading. He was atrocious in the first couple years of his career but has improved substantially since then.