southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 So much for the idea that information is somehow neutral in all of this. Toe the MLB owner line, or get fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Thank you. Posted this in the Work Stoppage thread a bit ago, but I did not have a chance to read anything so I did not include links/details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 The details need to be in more than a click through tweet Quote Rosenthal, a top news breaker, was first kept off the air for around three months, according to sources, after he wrote columns in 2020 — with the season in jeopardy due to the pandemic — analyzing Manfred’s handling of the situation for The Athletic. There was no stated suspension at the time and it went publicly unnoticed. Rosenthal was still paid, but was put in a months-long penalty box. He did return for the trade deadline, which was pushed to Aug. 31 that season due to COVID-19. … In June 2020, Rosenthal’s analysis of Manfred for The Athletic featured some light criticism, but it didn’t appear to delve into anything personal. In one piece, Rosenthal wrote, “As if the perception that Manfred is beholden to owners and out of touch with players was not bad enough, he was trending on Twitter on Monday after performing a massive flip-flop.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I can’t take credit for this response but loved it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 This sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 @ Manfred Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 How chickenshit is this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Balta1701 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 25 minutes ago, Leonard Zelig said: How chickenshit is this? Approximately 1 manfred in the appropriate units. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Rosenthal is probably the most professional and well respected person in baseball media. This should go over well with fans and the rest of the media, especially with literally no other MLB news to discuss except for the current f’ing lockout. The current lockout with MLB/owners and Manfred being almost fully responsible. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 So Manfred isn’t negotiating a new CBA with the players but is instead firing an analyst on the MLB Network for criticizing in a separate outlet. Glad he has his priorities straight! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: So much for the idea that information is somehow neutral in all of this. Toe the MLB owner line, or get fired. MLB Network is owned by MLB, so Rosenthal was essentially an MLB employee. I don't know any company where you can publicly trash your company's CEO and retain your job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 And cue the timeline for Manfred to be gone. Horrible commish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 39 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: MLB Network is owned by MLB, so Rosenthal was essentially an MLB employee. I don't know any company where you can publicly trash your company's CEO and retain your job. Thank you for pointing that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 57 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: MLB Network is owned by MLB, so Rosenthal was essentially an MLB employee. I don't know any company where you can publicly trash your company's CEO and retain your job. How many people's job is to objectively report on your company and bosses? This is way too simplified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: How many people's job is to objectively report on your company and bosses? This is way too simplified. There are other outlets where you can objectively report on MLB though: ESPN, Fox Sports, Sports Illustrated, The Athletic, etc. If you're going to work for MLB Network you have to understand that the rules are a little bit different. How long do you think Scott Merkin keeps his job if he tweets something trashing Jerry Reinsdorf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: There are other outlets where you can objectively report on MLB though: ESPN, Fox Sports, Sports Illustrated, The Athletic, etc. If you're going to work for MLB Network you have to understand that the rules are a little bit different. How long do you think Scott Merkin keeps his job if he tweets something trashing Jerry Reinsdorf? The job is unique. The "rules" should reflect that, versus being PR people for MLB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Nice to see that Manfred is busy firing journalists instead of negotiating with the MLBPA in good faith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The job is unique. The "rules" should reflect that, versus being PR people for MLB. MLB Network's ultimate function is to be PR for MLB though. From your living room, it looks a lot like ESPN or any other network covering MLB, but it really isn't. At the end of the day, MLB is signing your check so you can't go out there and trash them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 11 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: There are other outlets where you can objectively report on MLB though: ESPN, Fox Sports, Sports Illustrated, The Athletic, etc. If you're going to work for MLB Network you have to understand that the rules are a little bit different. How long do you think Scott Merkin keeps his job if he tweets something trashing Jerry Reinsdorf? Merkin would be tweeting and writing articles as part of his job for MLB. In that instance, MLB would be directly paying Merkin for writing words trashing them. I get Rosenthal was employed by MLB in some capacity, but all of his words and reporting do not belong to MLB. Rosenthal wrote these articles about the lockout/Manfred for the Athletic. There was also nothing inappropriate written about Manfred. It was normal reporting for a guy another company is paying to report. It’s not like he was on MLB Tonight calling Manfred a b****, as much as I really wish that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 17 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: MLB Network's ultimate function is to be PR for MLB though. From your living room, it looks a lot like ESPN or any other network covering MLB, but it really isn't. At the end of the day, MLB is signing your check so you can't go out there and trash them. Well luckily MLB is more concerned about silencing minimal discent and not actually fixing the game, so I am sure there is plenty to "report" on. Except now they screwed the pooch and are the news. It would have attracted way less attention if they had left him alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I see the mob is back running professional sports Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Always nice to knee-cap one of the five most important columnists in the sport. And surely he will go somewhere else and write only glowing remarks. It seems the US is turning into China. You're either with the ownership class/government, or you're an enemy of the state, so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: I see the mob is back running professional sports We MIGHT hear for a day or two some talking points in Congress about removing the anti-trust exemption, but that never amounts to anything in the end. Edited January 4, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Putting these here to provide some clarity in case it was looked over. Rosenthal won't be on the network anymore, but still has his gigs with the Athletic and FOX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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