ThirdGen Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I never even noticed Rosenthal's article until I read this about his firing. In general, I always felt that MLB's various in house media did a good job covering MLB objectively, including its warts. Bad news about player behavior, team issue etc seemed to be reported there as much as they were elsewhere. I understand that he was technically an employee of MLB and technically it is a bad idea to speakly bad publicly about the CEO. But this is different. Most companies don't hire reporters to cover their companies and set up media companies to enable that. MLB makes a load of money off its media. If MLB network, MLB.com etc is truly just a paid advertisement for MLB, as it now seems, then screw them. I'll get my MLB news elsewhere, from sources not under the thumb of Manfred. Plenty available. I've suspected Manfred is horrible. Firing Rosenthal, one of the premier baseball reporters, confirms that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Wow. Got nervous this was from the Athletic which would have been cancel-worth as a subscriber. Manfred is such a coward. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 From the very beginning, MLB has tried to control the media, and has been pretty successful. Mainstream reporters know they take their careers in their hands if they show any independence. Even if they don't get fired, sources can dry up and that can hamper the way they do their job. However, many times at least some truth comes out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) Technically, his contract ended and they didn't try to bring him back, so he really wasn't fired, but it just shows how ridiculous and petty MLB can be. It actually hurts the guys who remain because it gives the impression they are all owners/Manfred ass kissers. And the criticism was so mild no one ever made a big deal about it except for the powers that be. Edited January 4, 2022 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 16 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said: There are other outlets where you can objectively report on MLB though: ESPN, Fox Sports, Sports Illustrated, The Athletic, etc. If you're going to work for MLB Network you have to understand that the rules are a little bit different. How long do you think Scott Merkin keeps his job if he tweets something trashing Jerry Reinsdorf? According to the article, the comments were made in The Atlantic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 21 hours ago, Leonard Zelig said: How chickenshit is this? P.T. Barnum was quoted as saying " say anything you like about me...just spell my name right." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 I don't think I could have ever imagined MLB having a commish that made me pine for ol' Bud. But here we are. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, bmags said: Wow. Got nervous this was from the Athletic which would have been cancel-worth as a subscriber. Manfred is such a coward. It's possible that Manfred could revoke his press privileges if he so chooses, and essentially blackball Rosenthal. I'd imagine if Manfred is that upset about it, he may do such a thing. Would be horrible. Edited January 4, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 3 hours ago, Quin said: There it is. Man up and go directly to the source instead of being a coward. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 11:06 PM, southsider2k5 said: Well luckily MLB is more concerned about silencing minimal discent and not actually fixing the game, so I am sure there is plenty to "report" on. Except now they screwed the pooch and are the news. It would have attracted way less attention if they had left him alone. But the egos often win out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zisk Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 KR now has a badge of honor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 9:30 PM, CentralChamps21 said: MLB Network is owned by MLB, so Rosenthal was essentially an MLB employee. I don't know any company where you can publicly trash your company's CEO and retain your job. Seems obvious, doesn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Bootlickers need only apply. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, poppysox said: Seems obvious, doesn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 cancel culture is everywhere and nobody can have an opposite opinion anymore without someone getting all ruffled. The fact that Manfred's ego is so delicate and can't face truths tells you everything you need to know about how MLB got into this mess. I was never a huge fan of rosenthal but that reporting should never get anyone fired. crazy world . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 1 hour ago, quickman said: cancel culture is everywhere and nobody can have an opposite opinion anymore without someone getting all ruffled. The fact that Manfred's ego is so delicate and can't face truths tells you everything you need to know about how MLB got into this mess. I was never a huge fan of rosenthal but that reporting should never get anyone fired. crazy world . "When you tear out a man's tongue, you are not proving him a liar, you're only telling the world that you fear what he might say." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 guarantee Manfred is the type to surround himself with yesmen sycophants who never give him the smallest push back on any decision he makes, people like that are spineless cowards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 12 hours ago, quickman said: cancel culture is everywhere and nobody can have an opposite opinion anymore without someone getting all ruffled. The fact that Manfred's ego is so delicate and can't face truths tells you everything you need to know about how MLB got into this mess. I was never a huge fan of rosenthal but that reporting should never get anyone fired. crazy world . cancel culture has always existed, this isn't some new phenomenon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 6 hours ago, joesaiditstrue said: cancel culture has always existed, this isn't some new phenomenon The concept of important white people like Manfred having consequences for things they say and do…is. That’s why they need a new term for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 People getting fired is not cancel culture ?. Rosenthal will be just fine, this is bogus as hell and Manfred is a b**** but Rosenthal did not get cancelled. He still works for the athletic. He will still work for Fox as far as I know. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: The concept of important white people like Manfred having consequences for things they say and do…is. That’s why they need a new term for it. No they have a term for it. It's called being a little b****. Even JR knew that was true about Manfred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: No they have a term for it. It's called being a little b****. Even JR knew that was true about Manfred. A wimpy businessman in a role too big for him firing people for minimal criticism is not new. Him suffering any real consequences for doing so…would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: A wimpy businessman in a role too big for him firing people for minimal criticism is not new. Him suffering any real consequences for doing so…would be. See I don't foresee consequences for him because he was hired for this reason, to be the bad guy and eat shit on behalf of the owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 55 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: See I don't foresee consequences for him because he was hired for this reason, to be the bad guy and eat shit on behalf of the owners. Me neither. Anyway, to be clear - people doing what Manfred did here has always existed - that’s what the poster I replied to said. It won’t happen here, but sometimes lately, a powerful person hurting people with less power has triggered a negative response, even with actual consequences. This is so outrageous we have a new term for it - cancel culture. So it’s true this kind of ? by Manfred has always happened, but the shiny new term on it is reflecting something different. Something fairly new in this case - all the baseball fans know what the coward did and some will remember it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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