JoeCredeYes Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Bunt Ritual said: But if we want to lay a foundation for a team that competes annually why are we trading Vaughn? Unless it's for a bona fide superstar with years of control left, I don't see the point. You mean like a Matt Olson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Speaking of Vaughn, I was bored so I watched the ALDS win. It was jarring to me how thin he looked at the end of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 minute ago, fathom said: Speaking of Vaughn, I was bored so I watched the ALDS win. It was jarring to me how thin he looked at the end of the season. He did seem to run out of gas at the end of the year, hopefully just needs to adjust to a full MLB season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunt Ritual Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said: You mean like a Matt Olson? Matt OIson has 2 years left of control and doesn't fit a positional need, so no. Not like Matt Olson. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, Bunt Ritual said: Matt OIson has 2 years left of control and doesn't fit a positional need, so no. Not like Matt Olson. And at least one of those years would be with Jose Abreu on the roster, so one of them turns into a highly paid DH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 From all accounts, Olson is going to be traded for a huge package in the coming weeks. I don’t think we would like what the Sox give up for a position they’re not lacking in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 10 minutes ago, fathom said: Speaking of Vaughn, I was bored so I watched the ALDS win. It was jarring to me how thin he looked at the end of the season. HAD A SICK DOUBLE THOU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Just now, fathom said: From all accounts, Olson is going to be traded for a huge package in the coming weeks. I don’t think we would like what the Sox give up for a position they’re not lacking in. Yeah, my hypothetical is mostly based on the fact that he's available, fits the LHH power need and we have nothing else to talk about so why not speculate wildly. I'd rather buy low on Bellinger since he fills a positional need, but couldn't imagine what kind of package LA would demand for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunt Ritual Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 Bellinger would be interesting. I wonder if the Dodger's believe in those mechanical tweaks he made at the end of the season/playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said: You mean like a Matt Olson? Matt Olsen isn't a superstar. He's a very good player who has on and off years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 I would love to work around a deal for Jeff McNeil or Gavin Lux, as @Harold's Leg Lift has semi-alluded to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 If we're going to make a trade, let's not trade Andrew Vaughn please. I'd prefer to be good for the next 5-6 years, not classic White Sox this thing into 1-2 year window. That said, this team is good enough as is to not make any major trades. Sign Conforto. Sign one of the many 2B options. Trade Kimbrel for a cheap controllable reliever. Sign a vet SP to compete for the 5 spot. Go to battle. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 7 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I would love to work around a deal for Jeff McNeil or Gavin Lux, as @Harold's Leg Lift has semi-alluded to. Some rumors that Seattle could trade Frazier also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, fathom said: Some rumors that Seattle could trade Frazier also Adam Frazier? The guy they just traded for 2 months ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, JoeCredeYes said: You mean like a Matt Olson? Matt Olsen has two years of control left and plays Jose Abreu's position. While the bat would be nice, he'd be our DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 12 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Adam Frazier? The guy they just traded for 2 months ago? The Sox have let him walk on deals twice recently now. I get the feeling they aren't interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 13 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Adam Frazier? The guy they just traded for 2 months ago? Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 24 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: The Sox have let him walk on deals twice recently now. I get the feeling they aren't interested. I was not necessarily saying I was interested. I was asking why the Mariners would make the guy they just traded for after the season available. I would give up a couple low level prospects for him to play 2B everyday tho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I was not necessarily saying I was interested. I was asking why the Mariners would make the guy they just traded for after the season available. I would give up a couple low level prospects for him to play 2B everyday tho. Possible they could have picked him up as a fallback plan incase they don't grab other infield targets they are supposedly interested in (Bryant, Story). I don't think they gave up much to get him so dealing him if they sign someone else wouldn't be a bad option. Though with his ability to play outfield as well (which also seems to be getting crowded), might be better to keep him and figure out a way to get everyone at bats. Edited February 10, 2022 by Bob Sacamano Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 11 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I was not necessarily saying I was interested. I was asking why the Mariners would make the guy they just traded for after the season available. I would give up a couple low level prospects for him to play 2B everyday tho. Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Matt Olsen has two years of control left and plays Jose Abreu's position. While the bat would be nice, he'd be our DH. Which is absurd, he's a GG 1B and Jose is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Matt Olsen isn't a superstar. He's a very good player who has on and off years. Maybe I'm biased living in the Bay, dude is a star and a top 3 1B in the sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 29 minutes ago, JoeCredeYes said: Which is absurd, he's a GG 1B and Jose is not. You can call it what you like, but there is zero chance he gets send to DH. Andrew Vaughn is already a better 1B, and he isn't starting either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 7 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: If we're going to make a trade, let's not trade Andrew Vaughn please. I'd prefer to be good for the next 5-6 years, not classic White Sox this thing into 1-2 year window. That said, this team is good enough as is to not make any major trades. Sign Conforto. Sign one of the many 2B options. Trade Kimbrel for a cheap controllable reliever. Sign a vet SP to compete for the 5 spot. Go to battle. I only now realize this because Manfred had to lie today. The owners’ proposal turns the luxury tax into something much closer to a hard cap with bigger penalties. If something like the owners’ proposal passes, the White Sox will have only about $16 million to spend next year. If they spend more than that, it would cost them at least a third round draft pick, along with a financial penalty. If they were to do something like Conforto and Rodon, it could certainly cost them a second round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 17 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I only now realize this because Manfred had to lie today. The owners’ proposal turns the luxury tax into something much closer to a hard cap with bigger penalties. If something like the owners’ proposal passes, the White Sox will have only about $16 million to spend next year. If they spend more than that, it would cost them at least a third round draft pick, along with a financial penalty. If they were to do something like Conforto and Rodon, it could certainly cost them a second round pick. There won’t be an agreement with a lower luxury tax than it is now. The number will go up, not down. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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