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Tnetennba Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I'd love it if true. But my trust in Bruce Levine to have accurate Sox info is near zero. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 I have nothing against Conforto if we are going to spend money on a right fielder. However...Vaughn, Sheets, Grandal, Eloy, Abreu, and Collins can't all be the DH. I've stated earlier that I prefer using Vaughn and Sheets in a platoon with late-inning assistance from Engel. Use the money on other areas of need being pitching, 2nd base, and perhaps a backup catcher if a good defensive catcher can be found. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, poppysox said: I have nothing against Conforto if we are going to spend money on a right fielder. However...Vaughn, Sheets, Grandal, Eloy, Abreu, and Collins can't all be the DH. I've stated earlier that I prefer using Vaughn and Sheets in a platoon with late-inning assistance from Engel. Use the money on other areas of need being pitching, 2nd base, and perhaps a backup catcher if a good defensive catcher can be found. Well luckily 4 of those 6 will still be in the lineup, Sheets can go to AAA to be depth, and who cares about at bats for Collins. Edited February 12, 2022 by Bob Sacamano 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Vaughn, Sheets, Grandal, Eloy, Abreu, and Collins can't play RF either. Engel shouldn't be counted on to start regularly after last season. Sox need a legit starting RF. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 59 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Oh fuck yes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: Vaughn, Sheets, Grandal, Eloy, Abreu, and Collins can't play RF either. Engel shouldn't be counted on to start regularly after last season. Sox need a legit starting RF. Sox also need a left-handed bat. Conforto is a perfect fit for us. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sox also need a left-handed bat. Conforto is a perfect fit for us. Yup. Left hand hitting RF that shouldn't be too costly and isn't a total liability defensively. Sounds like exactly what the Sox need. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 19 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Vaughn, Sheets, Grandal, Eloy, Abreu, and Collins can't play RF either. Engel shouldn't be counted on to start regularly after last season. Sox need a legit starting RF. I am a big fan of Engel having called him a 5 tool player. Sheets and Vaughn are passable IMO and we need to use them someplace. They can't all DH. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 44 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Well luckily 4 of those 6 will still be in the lineup, Sheets can go to AAA to be depth, and who cares about at bats for Collins. I care about left-handed catching Collins until we have a suitable replacement and Sheets is not going to be at AAA. Trades and acquisitions are going to happen in abundance so there is no telling what will happen. Vaughn will be in high demand and might get moved to help us attain a more balanced roster. Also, Burger is blocked so might be used to trade for someone's blocked second baseman. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Yes, please. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 Question...if we only had the payroll flexibility for ONE of the following, would you prefer to see Comforto in RF and Leury at 2B; or, a Sheets/Vaughn/Engel combo in RF and K. Marte at 2B. Simple question, I understand there are a host of other options/permutations and nothing is absolute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Flash said: Question...if we only had the payroll flexibility for ONE of the following, would you prefer to see Comforto in RF and Leury at 2B; or, a Sheets/Vaughn/Engel combo in RF and K. Marte at 2B. Simple question, I understand there are a host of other options/permutations and nothing is absolute. Sheets/Vaughn/Engel combo in RF and Marte at 2B and it isn't close IMO. The question is what do we give up for Marte that doesn't include Vaughn. I might give up Vaughn in a Marte deal and live with Engel/Sheets. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Flash said: Question...if we only had the payroll flexibility for ONE of the following, would you prefer to see Comforto in RF and Leury at 2B; or, a Sheets/Vaughn/Engel combo in RF and K. Marte at 2B. Simple question, I understand there are a host of other options/permutations and nothing is absolute. Just spending money on Conforto > giving up prospects. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Just spending money on Conforto > giving up prospects. Exactly why I stipulated in Bold payroll flexibility (vs. acquisition costs, prospect capital, length of K, etc.). I'll rephrase the question...notwithstanding any other factors except payroll, which option do you prefer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Flash said: Exactly why I stipulated in Bold payroll flexibility (vs. acquisition costs, prospect capital, length of K, etc.). I'll rephrase the question...notwithstanding any other factors except payroll, which option do you prefer. Comforto in RF + any capable cheap vet glove only 2B, or Leury. I want zero part of a Sheets/Vaughn/Engel RF platoon all season. Its a disaster waiting to happen IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 48 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Comforto in RF + any capable cheap vet glove only 2B, or Leury. I want zero part of a Sheets/Vaughn/Engel RF platoon all season. Its a disaster waiting to happen IMO. Can I ask why you feel it would be a disaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Flash said: Can I ask why you feel it would be a disaster? Defensive wise and he’s right. I think with Robert you can easily hide one shitty defender in the corners, but flanking with him with Eloy & Vaughn/Sheets is a disaster waiting to happen. No need to get cute here, just get Conforto. Dude is a perfect fit. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 So the same guy who said that the SOX were "checking in on Semien" is now "linking the SOX to Conforto." Color me dubious, though I'd be pleased if it were to happen. I'd rather roll dice on Suzuki, and sign Villar (15 HR v RHP last year) for 2B. Figure ~$9M * 4 for a gold glove RFer, and ~$3.5/1 + an option for Villar. Leaves room to find another SP, and also room to send money along with Kimbrel to have him fuck off, and preserves whatever scant resources are available in the 30th ranked system for other moves. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Flash said: Can I ask why you feel it would be a disaster? Sheets has no range and no feel for the OF. Vaughn is too slow to cover the gaps in RF. I don’t trust Engel to stay healthy or to be worthy of regular ABs. Robert already has to make up for Eloy’s deficiencies in LF, and has already had one serious lower body injury. Expecting/requiring Robert to cover for two terrible corner OFs every single game is too much to ask. It’s begging for another injury. It is far more sensible to sign/acquire a real RF instead of running out a bad 1B, a good 1B/decent LF, and an unreliable 4th OF and pretending as if that is acceptable for division champ looking to make a deep playoff run. The likelihood of that arrangement turning out well is very very low IMO. Edited February 13, 2022 by Tnetennba 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I will say that I won’t be surprised one bit if Vaughn & Sheets platoon in RF in 2022. It won’t change my view that it’s terrible idea, a potential disaster defensively, and begging for a serious injury. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I've always liked Comforto but primarily for his bat. I'm guessing he could be expected to play better RF then a Sheets/Vaughn/Engel combo but how much so is anyone's guess. I'm less convinced that he would be a significant improvement offensively over the combo platter, as I have high expectations for them in '22. I am however entirely convinced that Marte would be a major improvement over Leury or any other potentially available 2B options. in a vacuum and all things being equal, I'd prefer Marte over Comforto. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Conforto makes too much sense, similar to how Grandal made too much sense a couple years ago. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Pass. Just a lazy move. Edited February 13, 2022 by GreenSox 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 It’s a good move for The white Sox, I just can’t see how to do it without substantially going over the luxury tax. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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