Texsox Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 It's behind the NY Times paywall but I just read of the 500,000 refugees from Ukraine, 139,000 have fled to Russia. I was kind of shocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Beast Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Long but interesting interview with Fiona Hill. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/28/world-war-iii-already-there-00012340 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 12 hours ago, The Beast said: Long but interesting interview with Fiona Hill. https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/02/28/world-war-iii-already-there-00012340 Well worth a read. Thanks! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Whoa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 hours ago, Big Hurtin said: Whoa I hate war and war machines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 I wish the markets worked based on companies doing the right thing. Apple stock dropped on news it is stopping sales in Russia. Ford stock declined yesterday for the same reason. Seriously anyone who shorts because of a company stopping business in Russia is a unpatriotic piece of shit. Hold those stocks or buy more. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 1, 2022 Author Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Texsox said: I wish the markets worked based on companies doing the right thing. Apple stock dropped on news it is stopping sales in Russia. Ford stock declined yesterday for the same reason. Seriously anyone who shorts because of a company stopping business in Russia is a unpatriotic piece of shit. Hold those stocks or buy more. It's going to be a huge test of ESG investing for the rest of world if Russia pushes oil to $150 gallon...as well as Germany with LNG. That said, Putin would be cutting off his nose to spite his face if they stopped selling energy to the majority of the developed world. And China won't volunteer to pay higher prices, one would hope. Or India, for that matter. Edited March 1, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I swear I was just doing research! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: I swear I was just doing research! Lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 I'm certain we're getting slanted news but it sure seems that Russia is targeting civilians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 Nice to see us supplying Ukraine directly with Stinger missiles instead of through intermediaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 2, 2022 Share Posted March 2, 2022 From behind the NYT paywall. China asked Russia to delay the invasion until after the winter Olympics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 At some point does Russia's military get fed up with all this and just start ignoring orders and withdraw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 36 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said: At some point does Russia's military get fed up with all this and just start ignoring orders and withdraw? Probably not. Just like ours wouldn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, CentralChamps21 said: At some point does Russia's military get fed up with all this and just start ignoring orders and withdraw? Or putin gets fed up and throws a nuke or bombs the chernobyl site. Hope that doesn't happen. Edited March 3, 2022 by Dominikk85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Right now the Doomsday Clock is set at 100 second until midnight. I'm guessing that will change quickly. It's been a long time since using nuclear weapons was a real and eminent danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 4, 2022 Author Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) Nuclear power plant hit....on fire. Fortunately, not a direct missile hit, but still worrisome. No increase in radiation levels, yet. This particular plant houses 6/15 nuclear reactors in the entire country. Zapor.............is the abbreviated named of the city. Guess we could call it south east-central Ukraine, in terms of location....not too far from those two breakaway regions in the southeast of the country. What next? Edited March 4, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Nuclear war without the missiles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 It was a firefight at the admin (office) building outside the plant, not an assault on the reactors themselves. This plant apparently provides 25% of Ukraine's electricity, so it makes sense to capture it from a strategic standpoint. If they want an annexed or puppeted Ukraine, they'll want these critical multi-billion dollar assets intact I'd imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Why are they only oligarchs if they're Russian? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 https://www.cnn.com/2022/03/04/business/lukoil-end-war/index.html Russian oil company breaks from Putin. Demands end of the war and expresses empathy for Ukraine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: Why are they only oligarchs if they're Russian? Because it's too cool of a word to waste on anyone else. We tend to use the less negative plutocracy when talking about our friends because oligarchs has taken on an addition meaning of corruption. Here we've become a gerontocracy over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 51 minutes ago, Texsox said: Because it's too cool of a word to waste on anyone else. We tend to use the less negative plutocracy when talking about our friends because oligarchs has taken on an addition meaning of corruption. Here we've become a gerontocracy over the years. This is the major problem with this country. Too many boomers thinking the old ways still work when it's time to move forward. Hell! Let's say the world! Look at Putin... old cold war brain doing a stupid war that very few in his country support... Edited March 4, 2022 by pettie4sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 18 minutes ago, pettie4sox said: This is the major problem with this country. Too many boomers thinking the old ways still work when it's time to move forward. Hell! Let's say the world! Look at Putin... old cold war brain doing a stupid war that very few in his country support... Yep. Millennials in college are at their peak. Anything after that and they are declining quickly. By sixty they will be idiots not fit to run the world. And the cycle will repeat. Boomers thought the same thing about the previous generation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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