maxjusttyped Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, CentralChamps21 said: I hate to be the glass half empty guy, but this new deal raised the luxury tax threshold which probably gave some teams more money to throw at some of the Sox FA targets. It also allows the Sox to spend more without having to worry about hitting the luxury tax threshold, which we know Jerry wouldn't ever cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, maxjusttyped said: It also allows the Sox to spend more without having to worry about hitting the luxury tax threshold, which we know Jerry wouldn't ever cross. Does anybody think Jerry was going to get close to the old threshold, let alone the new one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I think Bryant and Story are the 2 best FA fits left, but I'm not sure if Reinsdorf will want to spend on that caliber of player. I could live with a Rosario or Joc Pederson type in RF if it meant the Sox acquire a high end 2B or SP option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, CentralChamps21 said: Does anybody think Jerry was going to get close to the old threshold, let alone the new one? He already was close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, CentralChamps21 said: Does anybody think Jerry was going to get close to the old threshold, let alone the new one? Don't have the exact #s in front of me, but the Sox were actually pretty close to the previous luxury tax number, IIRC. A lot of the extensions they've done count more against the luxury tax number than their salary for 2022. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, CentralChamps21 said: Does anybody think Jerry was going to get close to the old threshold, let alone the new one? Given that they're already at $194M they better get close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I swear to god if they go cheap.........I will be in full force blast Jerry mode again I will be full blast mode as well right there with you! This is one time JR needs to spend the money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: I think Bryant and Story are the 2 best FA fits left, but I'm not sure if Reinsdorf will want to spend on that caliber of player. I could live with a Rosario or Joc Pederson type in RF if it meant the Sox acquire a high end 2B or SP option. Eddie Rosario would suck unless he's coming to split LF/DH with Eloy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, The Kids Can Play said: I will be full blast mode as well right there with you! This is one time JR needs to spend the money! This year is the peak of the window. Do whatever it takes. The 2003 team could have won a WS if ownership wanted it to. You don't want that again. Edited March 10, 2022 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Nick Castellanos or Kyle Schwarber could fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Eddie Rosario would suck unless he's coming to split LF/DH with Eloy. Definitely not my cup a tea of either, but he's a 112 career wRC+ vs RHP and would be acceptable (to me) as a platoon option assuming they'd make meaningful upgrades elsewhere. It's not as good as adding a Bryant or Conforto type, but I think you can get to ~3 WAR in RF between Leury, Sheets, Vaughn, Rosario & Engel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, The Kids Can Play said: Nick Castellanos or Kyle Schwarber could fit. Schwarber and Eloy in the OF would be god awful. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 hour ago, fathom said: Vaughn in a package for Lowe from Tampa would be ideal Tampa is a scary team to trade with. They don't lose many of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said: Definitely not my cup a tea of either, but he's a 112 career wRC+ vs RHP and would be acceptable (to me) as a platoon option assuming they'd make meaningful upgrades elsewhere. It's not as good as adding a Bryant or Conforto type, but I think you can get to ~3 WAR in RF between Leury, Sheets, Vaughn, Rosario & Engel. Rosario is Eloy/Vaughn bad in the OF. Absolutely terrible. Edited March 10, 2022 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Eddie Rosario would suck unless he's coming to split LF/DH with Eloy. I honestly wanted him last off-season. I wanted them to grab another corner outfield bat to split corner OF and DH with Eloy and keep Vaughn in the minors for a bit. He would have been a nice piece to have post-Eloy injury lol Edited March 10, 2022 by Bob Sacamano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kids Can Play Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: Schwarber and Eloy in the OF would be god awful. One them needs to be DH and not both in the OF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Rosario is Eloy/Vaughn bad in the OF Realistically, all the options after Castellanos, Conforto, and Bryant are huge gambles and all have glaring flaws. Pederson and Rosario are in the same league for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, The Kids Can Play said: One them needs to be DH and not both in the OF. So we'd play who in RF? Engel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Rosario is Eloy/Vaughn bad in the OF. Absolutely terrible. I don't want bad outfield defense either, but if the Sox are going to lock themselves into it, doing so on cheaper guys like Rosario is preferable to me than spending up for Schwaber or Castellanos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said: I don't want bad outfield defense either, but if the Sox are going to lock themselves into it, doing so on cheaper guys like Rosario is preferable to me than spending up for Schwaber or Castellanos. No arguments there. It may be that they don't want to go after Conforto because they think Colas will be ready in '23. I don't like the shitty RF D potential there, but I guess a Rosario/Engel platoon wouldn't be the worst thing in the world. Edited March 10, 2022 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: So we'd play who in RF? Engel? Counting on Engel to be anything more than a 4th outfielder feels like a big stretch, for a variety of reasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 They have to convert on a middle of the order run producer. Castellanos, Conforto, or Schwarber. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said: They have to convert on a middle of the order run producer. Castellanos, Conforto, or Schwarber. Glad to hear you say Conforto. ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said: They have to convert on a middle of the order run producer. Castellanos, Conforto, or Schwarber. I guess they could sign a Schwarber or Cruz type and then trade Sheets/Vaughn for somebody who can play RF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said: They have to convert on a middle of the order run producer. Castellanos, Conforto, or Schwarber. Bryant an option if we don’t convert on those guys? Or is he too expensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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