fathom Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, ChiSox59 said: Duuuuude. Cmon. Point proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On an extremely unrelated note, I found it amusing that old friends Jake Lamb and Mike Wright signed Minor League deals with the Dodgers today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBX Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Lol I don't understand the meta-commentary on board mood. What is the point of discussion if you're discouraged for expressing your actual opinion? Some historical boards have been mostly meta morale stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I think if they ate about 5-6m, they would get a decent return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I'm pretty sure Harold was on here earlier suggesting that there are multiple suitors for Kimbrel and that a deal may not be imminent. Sounds like a bidding war to me. Sox might even be running teams offers by Oakland to see if there's anybody they like to be part of a deal for Manaea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: Lol I don't understand the meta-commentary on board mood. What is the point of discussion if you're discouraged for expressing your actual opinion? What’s the point of discussion if you’re discouraged from expressing an actual opinion that other posters are being unreasonably negative? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, fathom said: Every team in baseball takes him for 6 million dollars Really? 2019: 6.53 ERA/8.00 FIP 2020: 5.23 ERA/3.97 FIP 2021 w/Cubs: 0.49 ERA/1.10 FIP 2021 w/Sox: 5.09 ERA/4.53 FIP One of these things is not like the other, one of these things does not belong....... Edited March 15, 2022 by Jack Parkman 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, CentralChamps21 said: I'm pretty sure Harold was on here earlier suggesting that there are multiple suitors for Kimbrel and that a deal may not be imminent. Sounds like a bidding war to me. Sox might even be running teams offers by Oakland to see if there's anybody they like to be part of a deal for Manaea. Well, I guess in some universe that's possibly the case. Let's hope it's this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, CentralChamps21 said: I'm pretty sure Harold was on here earlier suggesting that there are multiple suitors for Kimbrel and that a deal may not be imminent. Sounds like a bidding war to me. Sox might even be running teams offers by Oakland to see if there's anybody they like to be part of a deal for Manaea. Harold also told us to "just wait...." two days ago as if a move was about to be announced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Really? 2019: 6.53 ERA/8.00 FIP 2020: 5.23 ERA/3.97 FIP 2021 w/Sox: 5.09 ERA/4.53 FIP Yes Jack, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Really? 2019: 6.53 ERA/8.00 FIP 2020: 5.23 ERA/3.97 FIP 2021 w/Sox: 5.09 ERA/4.53 FIP Conveniently leaving off his closing numbers from first part of 2021....come on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: Really? 2019: 6.53 ERA/8.00 FIP 2020: 5.23 ERA/3.97 FIP 2021 w/Sox: 5.09 ERA/4.53 FIP I see you’re conveniently leaving out the period of time where he was arguably the best reliever in baseball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Harold also told us to "just wait...." two days ago as if a move was about to be announced. Didn’t you hear? They signed Vince Velasquez! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 If contending teams like Padres, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Giants are bidding for Suzuki’s service and the team across town is meeting with him tonight (shows he’s open to coming to Chicago), is there a reasonable excuse for Sox to not be in the hunt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, thxfrthmmrs said: If contending teams like Padres, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Giants are bidding for Suzuki’s service and the team across town is meeting with him tonight (shows he’s open to coming to Chicago), is there a reasonable excuse for Sox to not be in the hunt? When Jerry bumped the payroll above 160 million he demanded they cut the Asian scout to save some money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: If contending teams like Padres, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Giants are bidding for Suzuki’s service and the team across town is meeting with him tonight (shows he’s open to coming to Chicago), is there a reasonable excuse for Sox to not be in the hunt? It’s unrealistic to be in on every free agent that’s out there. Signing Suzuki and having him start in the big leagues right away is a big risk especially if he’s unproven and may not be the best fit for the team. Might as well start Colas or Cespedes in the big leagues right away. Edited March 15, 2022 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, thxfrthmmrs said: If contending teams like Padres, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Giants are bidding for Suzuki’s service and the team across town is meeting with him tonight (shows he’s open to coming to Chicago), is there a reasonable excuse for Sox to not be in the hunt? Unproven RHH who is a LF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 29 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Jimmy give us something to nibble on. The angst and agitation is growing. What's going on re Conforto, Schwarber and SP? I wish I knew. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 21 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: You don't put any stock into Fegan and others reporting the Sox surveyed his market before picking up the option? Or the fact Hahn is openly talking about dealing him when normally the Sox play everything so close to the vest? I think your argument for whether or not Kimbrel has surplus value makes sense, but the Sox are the same organization who didn't want to risk ending up with Rodon on a 1 year deal. And devoted significant resources to Graveman & Joe Kelly. Why would they do that if they weren't confident they could get off the Kimbrel money? It just doesn't make any rational sense to me. First of all, if Hahn actually did a survey because he didn’t know…he’s got a problem because why would anyone tell Them the truth? This was obvious at the time - it’s a great way to hurt a playoff team this year if they’re stuck with him. Second…this part was obvious in November. They weren’t going to get a big return for him no matter what, agreed? If they had a single offer that took on his whole deal and returned something…why didn’t they take it? That has been the case last year and for the whole last week. They aren’t going to get a much bigger return for him no matter what they do, so if they have all these offers, why haven’t they taken one? And third, maybe it doesn’t make rational sense? Maybe it actually is ego and needing to prove something? Rational sense says he has not pitched up to being the second highest paid reliever in baseball this year and that contract would be extremely tough to move without picking up some money because he didn’t. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: First of all, if Hahn actually did a survey because he didn’t know…he’s got a problem because why would anyone tell Them the truth? This was obvious at the time - it’s a great way to hurt a playoff team this year if they’re stuck with him. Second…this part was obvious in November. They weren’t going to get a big return for him no matter what, agreed? If they had a single offer that took on his whole deal and returned something…why didn’t they take it? That has been the case last year and for the whole last week. They aren’t going to get a much bigger return for him no matter what they do, so if they have all these offers, why haven’t they taken one? And third, maybe it doesn’t make rational sense? Maybe it actually is ego and needing to prove something? Rational sense says he has not pitched up to being the second highest paid reliever in baseball this year and that contract would be extremely tough to move without picking up some money because he didn’t. I wish we didn't agree so much. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: If contending teams like Padres, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Giants are bidding for Suzuki’s service and the team across town is meeting with him tonight (shows he’s open to coming to Chicago), is there a reasonable excuse for Sox to not be in the hunt? No, there isn't. This board seems sold on desperately needing a LHH RFer, but I'm not convinced. The 2021 White SOX finished 6th in WRC+ V. RHP, according to FANGRAPHS. Now, that also came alongside a 10th ranking in slg% v. RHP, and 2nd in OBP V. RHP But, there's "context," in that those rankings came with a number of serious injuries last season, so some improvement could be expected organically from roster returnees. So, to answer your question, no, there isn't really any good reason why the SOX shouldn't look into Suzuki. Edited March 15, 2022 by Two-Gun Pete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: If contending teams like Padres, Dodgers, Red Sox, and Giants are bidding for Suzuki’s service and the team across town is meeting with him tonight (shows he’s open to coming to Chicago), is there a reasonable excuse for Sox to not be in the hunt? He bats with the wrong hand, for one. We need a lefty. Badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Unproven RHH who is a LF. Where did you read that Suzuki is a LF? Hes been a gold glover in RF in NPB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: It’s unrealistic to be in on every free agent that’s out there. Signing Suzuki and having him start in the big leagues right away is a big risk especially if he’s unproven and may not be the best fit for the team. Might as well start Colas or Cespedes in the big leagues right away. He’s proven enough for the 4 playoff teams I mentioned to go after him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 13 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: What’s the point of discussion if you’re discouraged from expressing an actual opinion that other posters are being unreasonably negative? Lmao touche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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