SoCalChiSox Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, fathom said: cough Joc cough Yep, I feel the odds of 1 yr Joc deal are rising exponentially and we can play a drinking game for the RH presser based on how many times Oscar Colas is mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 That might be why the return looks light. Cincy cheaping out again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Thoughts? Suzuki-SD, Castellanos-Phil, Bryant-Col, Schwarber-?, Conforto-? Rangers, Cubs, Dodgers, Indians, Tigers involved maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: That might be why the return looks light. Cincy cheaping out again. Obviously Suarez looks overpaid right now, but I don't think it's impossible at all for him to bounce back to being a pretty good player. ~11.5M AAV type of deal over 3 years is nothing in the grand scheme of things anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Wow, Winker is awesome. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Please just sign kris bryant 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saufley Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 13 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Had a rough time against lefties last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, michelangelosmonkey said: The negativity here is just unbelievable. Here we are coming off a 93 win season that wasn't even better because of terrible injury luck, we got young stars all over the diamond, we have five starting pitchers that could win the Cy Young (Keuchel was top five in Cy Young voting ONE YEAR AGO), the defense up the middle is as good as any team, we have a bullpen that had great pieces and we've just added two of the best arms available making them arguably the best bullpen in the league...Vegas and every power ranking around has us as a top five team...and post after post after post is "everything sucks" and the only thing that can fix this team is if we get this aging, below average defensive outfielder who had a career worst season (Keuchel is done but Conforto just had a one off??) whom the Mets trying desperately to win, with money no object, and knowing their players better than anyone say, hard pass? Let's see how things play out. It's in the 50's tomorrow....spring is in the air...can we just try to pretend we are at the most exciting time ever to be a Sox fan? The offseason is still young. I assume the Sox are still going to make some more moves. Having said that, I assumed you watched the playoffs in 2021. The Sox were not very competitive against the Astros. I also have serious questions on how they would have stacked up against the Dodgers/Braves/Rays. Thus far, they are seemingly a worse team in 2022 than they were in 2021. And they've already spent around 17 million on new players. That's why you are seeing the comments you are seeing. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Tony said: The offseason is still young. I assume the Sox are still going to make some more moves. Having said that, I assumed you watched the playoffs in 2021. The Sox were not very competitive against the Astros. I also have serious questions on how they would have stacked up against the Dodgers/Braves/Rays. Thus far, they are seemingly a worse team in 2022 than they were in 2021. And they've already spent around 17 million on new players. That's why you are seeing the comments you are seeing. The gap between the Sox and other teams has closed instead of gotten larger. Take the Mariners for example. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelangelosmonkey Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: If it was an even swap? Sure. But they gave up a Chris Sale's worth of prospects to get him, when they just could have paid Freeman. That's fair but at this point in their window I think a teams payroll becomes more important than the prospects. It's one of the problems with handing out a $20 million per for four years to Conforto...we're going to want that payroll flexibility in 23, 24 to resign Gio, make a trade deadline splash, extend Vaughn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Suarez could easily earn his contract and that's considered taken money to lessen a deal. The Reds are embarrassing. I've wanted the Sox to target Mahle of almost any guy available this off-season so would love to see what that costs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Fixing to be a pretender again, yourrrrrr Chicago White Sox! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelangelosmonkey Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, fathom said: The gap between the Sox and other teams has closed instead of gotten larger. Take the Mariners for example. OMG...so no one here sees internal growth with: Name Age Garrett Crochet 22 Andrew Vaughn 23 Luis Robert 23 Eloy Jimenez 24 Nick Madrigal 24 Romy Gonzalez 24 Gavin Sheets 25 Dylan Cease 25 Michael Kopech 25 Yoan Moncada 26 No one has a core of 26 and younger guys that are as good as this group. And we have no bad contracts on the books. And right now we have a top five payroll...we will b**** about everything. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, michelangelosmonkey said: OMG...so no one here sees internal growth with: Name Age Garrett Crochet 22 Andrew Vaughn 23 Luis Robert 23 Eloy Jimenez 24 Nick Madrigal 24 Romy Gonzalez 24 Gavin Sheets 25 Dylan Cease 25 Michael Kopech 25 Yoan Moncada 26 No one has a core of 26 and younger guys that are as good as this group. And we have no bad contracts on the books. And right now we have a top five payroll...we will b**** about everything. Wait when did we get Madrigal back? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Suarez could easily earn his contract and that's considered taken money to lessen a deal. The Reds are embarrassing. I've wanted the Sox to target Mahle of almost any guy available this off-season so would love to see what that costs. I'm looking to see if they have any other bad contracts that make sense to take back to lessen the cost but they don't really fit the team, unless you want to take on 1 year/$8 mill of Shogo Akiyama to straight up release haha Edited March 14, 2022 by Bob Sacamano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: Wait when did we get Madrigal back? I laughed more seeing Romy Gonzalez name in there in that group. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Suarez could easily earn his contract and that's considered taken money to lessen a deal. The Reds are embarrassing. I've wanted the Sox to target Mahle of almost any guy available this off-season so would love to see what that costs. Reds are straight giving players away, we should be exploring what it would take to get Mahle right now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, michelangelosmonkey said: OMG...so no one here sees internal growth with: Name Age Garrett Crochet 22 Andrew Vaughn 23 Luis Robert 23 Eloy Jimenez 24 Nick Madrigal 24 Romy Gonzalez 24 Gavin Sheets 25 Dylan Cease 25 Michael Kopech 25 Yoan Moncada 26 No one has a core of 26 and younger guys that are as good as this group. And we have no bad contracts on the books. And right now we have a top five payroll...we will b**** about everything. A. We don’t have Madrigal. B. We lost Rodon. C. Unless multiple players from that group takes a significant step, we aren’t getting past the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, michelangelosmonkey said: OMG...so no one here sees internal growth with: Name Age Garrett Crochet 22 Andrew Vaughn 23 Luis Robert 23 Eloy Jimenez 24 Nick Madrigal 24 Romy Gonzalez 24 Gavin Sheets 25 Dylan Cease 25 Michael Kopech 25 Yoan Moncada 26 No one has a core of 26 and younger guys that are as good as this group. And we have no bad contracts on the books. And right now we have a top five payroll...we will b**** about everything. Got bad news for you about that little guy… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: I'm looking to see if they have any other bad contracts that make sense to take back to lessen the cost but they don't really fit the team, unless you want to take on 1 year/$8 mill of Shogo Akiyama haha Moose is their main bad contract but it’s almost too bad to take on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, thxfrthmmrs said: A. We don’t have Madrigal. B. We lost Rodon. C. Unless multiple players from that group takes a significant step, we aren’t getting past the first round. Good players listed, problem is other teams exist that have good young players and also pay for veteran stars 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelangelosmonkey Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Tony said: The offseason is still young. I assume the Sox are still going to make some more moves. Having said that, I assumed you watched the playoffs in 2021. The Sox were not very competitive against the Astros. I also have serious questions on how they would have stacked up against the Dodgers/Braves/Rays. Thus far, they are seemingly a worse team in 2022 than they were in 2021. And they've already spent around 17 million on new players. That's why you are seeing the comments you are seeing. Really young teams rarely win right away. They ran into a hot pitcher and the Astros are a bad match for the Sox pitching staff (power staff against the best fast ball hitting team in the leauge). Still to draw wild conclusions on 4 games? To say they are worse is just being dark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Moose is their main bad contract but it’s almost too bad to take on. Yeah like I said, doesn't really fit. Can't even say "well we can stick him at DH and see how it goes until we feel like not paying him" because we already have DH covered haha 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Suzuki or Conforto? Who are you taking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 When has it ever not been the Sox MO to plug holes with cheap one year deals for middling players coming off a decent season that may or may not repeat it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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