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Offseason Part 2 - Lets the Rumors & Action Begin


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1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:

$240 puts them massively into the tax ($230 including benefits and such). I will offer a strong bet that the White Sox will stay under the tax. 

Sorry. Fat fingers. I meant 220. 10 under the first tax level.

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5 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said:

I don't want bad outfield defense either, but if the Sox are going to lock themselves into it, doing so on cheaper guys like Rosario is preferable to me than spending up for Schwaber or Castellanos.

After returning, Eloy was vastly improved defensively last year.

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2 minutes ago, ptatc said:

Sorry. Fat fingers. I meant 220. 10 under the first tax level.

That would mean spending about $23-25 million (depending on how money for the $50 million prearb pool is counted which I still don't know). 

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2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I get it’s his job, but got I hate Scott Merkin sometimes.

I know that felt like a "they're doing their best but remember, if they don't add anyone, they still look really good with the guys they have." Almost setting us up for disappointment lol

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1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

All he has to do is add a $20 million/year deal and he's exactly the same distance from the tax.

Just joking with you man. Kimbrel is getting traded. They have plenty of room. Just glad we have some baseball coming and hope they actually add that ~$20M player…cough…Conforto. 

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2 minutes ago, sullythered said:

After returning, Eloy was vastly improved defensively last year.

Hmph, while Fangraphs and UZR didn't like his defense, both Statcast and DRS agree that he was an average OF last year and notably better than in previous years. Interesting.

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1 minute ago, chw42 said:

Yeah cause TLR made him play at the warning track so he wouldn't kill himself. 

And he still had more outfield collisions with the wall or other players than AV did playing out there all year. It's not just that Eloy is bad on defense, but he is a danger to himself and others while he's out there too.

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Just now, Balta1701 said:

Hmph, while Fangraphs and UZR didn't like his defense, both Statcast and DRS agree that he was an average OF last year and notably better than in previous years. Interesting.

I was basically going off the eye test. He clearly worked on his foot speed, he was a much faster player when he returned both around the bases and in the outfield. His jumps are still not awesome, but they're certainly improved. And he's a young guy who works hard. I have no reason to believe that he won't continue to improve.

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Just now, ChiSox59 said:

Just joking with you man. Kimbrel is getting traded. They have plenty of room. Just glad we have some baseball coming and hope they actually add that ~$20M player…cough…Conforto. 

I figured you'd catch on the $20 million suggestion pretty easily.

And anyway, Kimbrel is still not worth $16 million this year.

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1 minute ago, maxjusttyped said:

And he still had more outfield collisions with the wall or other players than AV did playing out there all year. It's not just that Eloy is bad on defense, but he is a danger to himself and others while he's out there too.

This! 

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Just now, Balta1701 said:

Hmph, while Fangraphs and UZR didn't like his defense, both Statcast and DRS agree that he was an average OF last year and notably better than in previous years. Interesting.

Eloy's defense metrics have always been better than you'd expect. I don't think it's his bad defense that makes him unplayable out there, but rather the injury risk he causes for himself and anyone that comes in his vacinity because he's so clumsy out there.

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1 minute ago, sullythered said:

He was visibly faster around the bases and in the outfield when he returned.

His sprint speed on statcast was about the same. He was like 1 percentile faster than he was pre-injury. 

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