Tnetennba Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: But he should go back to AAA or be relegated to a platoon bat. ?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: But he should go back to AAA or be relegated to a platoon bat. ?? Outside of 1 name, the bottom of that list isn’t all that impressive. “Who would ever send Ike Davis or Eric Hosmer back to AAA with the careers they put up!” Isn’t a hard sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Outside of 1 name, the bottom of that list isn’t all that impressive. “Who would ever send Ike Davis or Eric Hosmer back to AAA with the careers they put up!” Isn’t a hard sell. Is he a finished product? No. Should he learn at the major league level against the best pitching around? Absolutely. He won’t get better against RHP by only facing lefties or crushing AAA & AAAA pitching. If he somehow craters in spring training that door opens, but until that happens it’s silly to suggest IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 18, 2022 Author Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: Is he a finished product? No. Should he learn at the major league level against the best pitching around? Absolutely. He won’t get better against RHP by only facing lefties or crushing AAA & AAAA pitching. If he somehow craters in spring training that door opens, but until that happens it’s silly to suggest IMO. Dude I totally agree. I can also recognize when an argument is weak sauce. “Look he’s on a list with Pujols! (15 slots below him between Ike Davis and Marty Cordova)” is not a strong sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Dude I totally agree. I can also recognize when an argument is weak sauce. “Look he’s on a list with Pujols! (15 slots below him between Ike Davis and Marty Cordova)” is not a strong sell. I just think some of the Vaughn takes around here are silly and was obviously subtweeting with my original comment. I didn’t scan that list of names super closely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 12 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Is he a finished product? No. Should he learn at the major league level against the best pitching around? Absolutely. He won’t get better against RHP by only facing lefties or crushing AAA & AAAA pitching. If he somehow craters in spring training that door opens, but until that happens it’s silly to suggest IMO. Just to be honest here, if we add a RF it’s very possible Tony heavily platoons Vaughn early on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 32 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Just to be honest here, if we add a RF it’s very possible Tony heavily platoons Vaughn early on. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least. It is TLR after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 55 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Outside of 1 name, the bottom of that list isn’t all that impressive. “Who would ever send Ike Davis or Eric Hosmer back to AAA with the careers they put up!” Isn’t a hard sell. Dan Johnson?! Dan Johnson. Convinced these dudes have kept the A's in Oakland over the years, despite the teams attempts at leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Tnetennba said: But he should go back to AAA or be relegated to a platoon bat. ?? It strikes me as another inkblot test. Those with some optimism see Pujols, Abreu, Soto, Longoria etc. Then there are those who look for the worst. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Eduardo Rodriguez starting opening day for Detroit. I like our chances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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35thstreetswarm Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 37 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: I just had a vision that Engel and his bionic shoulder will be the story of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 It's really a shame Engel can't stay healthy. As a 19th round pick, he has been an absolute steal even just being a part timer. It would be nice to see if he could actually hit a nice ceiling with some real playing time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) We're not talking about Cease's pornstache enough. Edited March 18, 2022 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tray Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: It strikes me as another inkblot test. Those with some optimism see Pujols, Abreu, Soto, Longoria etc. Then there are those who look for the worst. Steve Stone picked up where he left off last season in the first ST game imploring fans to forget about Vaughn's .235 BA (in 417 ABs) and declaring that Vaughn will be a "prolific hitter" in the major league. OK, that is an opinion and one from a HoF pitcher, but at some point promotion has to yield to statistics and actual performance. Last year Stone promoted Vaughn's defense while mocking Eloy on several occasions, even when he made decent plays. I hope Vaughn improves his BA average by 40 points, (close to what Eloy hits) and doubles the amount of HR he hit last season (15). However, until Tony sees that kind of improvement, I would not blame him for platooning AV at DH with a few platoon starts at 1B. And please no more outfield starts for AV, OK he was serviceable last season in the OF, but too many balls got down in front and behind him and it is only a matter of time that he injures himself on the plays where he makes a lawn dart of himself diving for a routine blooper. Edited March 19, 2022 by tray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Just now, tray said: Steve Stone picked up where he left off last season in the first ST game imploring fans to forget about Vaughn's .235 BA (in 417 ABs) and declaring that Vaughn will be a "prolific hitter" in the major league. OK, that is an opinion and one from a HoF pitcher, but at some point promotion has to yield to statistics and actual performance.Stone also promoted Vaughn's defense while mocking Eloy on several occasions, even when he made decent plays. I hope Vaughn improves his BA average by 40 points, (close to what Eloy hits) and doubles the amount of HR he hit last season (15). However, until Tony sees that kind of improvement, I would not blame him for platooning AV at DH with a few platoon starts at 1B. And please no more outfield starts for AV, OK he was serviceable last season in the OF, but too many balls got down in front and behind him and it is only a matter of time that he injures himself on the plays where he makes a lawn dart of himself diving for a routine blooper. LOL at least you're consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 LOL at you as well Saco. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, tray said: Steve Stone picked up where he left off last season in the first ST game imploring fans to forget about Vaughn's .235 BA (in 417 ABs) and declaring that Vaughn will be a "prolific hitter" in the major league. OK, that is an opinion and one from a HoF pitcher, but at some point promotion has to yield to statistics and actual performance. Last year Stone promoted Vaughn's defense while mocking Eloy on several occasions, even when he made decent plays. I hope Vaughn improves his BA average by 40 points, (close to what Eloy hits) and doubles the amount of HR he hit last season (15). However, until Tony sees that kind of improvement, I would not blame him for platooning AV at DH with a few platoon starts at 1B. And please no more outfield starts for AV, OK he was serviceable last season in the OF, but too many balls got down in front and behind him and it is only a matter of time that he injures himself on the plays where he makes a lawn dart of himself diving for a routine blooper. Hey Siri, definitely "irony". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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