southsider2k5 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, Saufley said: So, is it official that the Tepera ship has sailed? The last tweet was that there was still a line of communication and that a reunion was possible. Been a minute though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Is someone gonna tell Joe that Kimbrel might not be here for long? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 21 minutes ago, chw42 said: Is someone gonna tell Joe that Kimbrel might not be here for long? or did Kimbrel tell Joe that he would 1. Be here till the trade deadline in July. or 2. Be gone next week so he can take over his lease. or 3. Will be the closer on the South Side and you can be my set-up man like we did in Boston. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 18 hours ago, HahnsKiddieTable said: I wonder what the thought process was for this signing. Hey Joe, I know you’re injured and you haven’t been a high leverage guy for a while, but let me give you the third largest RP contract this off-season and you come play for us. Oh you know about our needs at RF and SP? Oh we will worry about that later! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BigHurt3515 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I think we overpaid for Joe Kelly 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Exactly. Can never have enough bullpen help. Soon it will be a minimum of 4 per game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Just now, ptatc said: Exactly. Can never have enough bullpen help. Soon it will be a minimum of 4 per game. Going to guess that 22 number regresses back into that 10-11% area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Going to guess that 22 number regresses back into that 10-11% area. I would agree. I think bullpens are only going to increase in importance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 If you count the Rays as an outlier, there's actually a noticeable relationship between bullpens pitching fewer innings and teams winning more games. The Rays were the only playoff team in the top 10 of bullpen innings. Unless you're running a roster like the Rays, this implies that playoff teams have a need for some bullpen help but extra guys will start becoming overkill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 11 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: If you count the Rays as an outlier, there's actually a noticeable relationship between bullpens pitching fewer innings and teams winning more games. The Rays were the only playoff team in the top 10 of bullpen innings. Unless you're running a roster like the Rays, this implies that playoff teams have a need for some bullpen help but extra guys will start becoming overkill. I think this will change going forward with the way starting pitching philosophy is evolving. I don't like it but I think that's the way its heading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: I think this will change going forward with the way starting pitching philosophy is evolving. I don't like it but I think that's the way its heading. I don't. While the Rays are their own thing...bad teams are bad because they don't have starters who can give them 2 quality times through the order. Bad teams rely on their bullpens to fill more innings because their starters get shelled too early. You need quality relief up to a certain point...but beyond that, you're overspending on low-leverage innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: I don't. While the Rays are their own thing...bad teams are bad because they don't have starters who can give them 2 quality times through the order. Bad teams rely on their bullpens to fill more innings because their starters get shelled too early. You need quality relief up to a certain point...but beyond that, you're overspending on low-leverage innings. Good in theory and that's the latest philosophy but 9 innings used to be the goal, then it was 7, then the quality start of 6. Now they barely do 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wrathofhahn Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Joe Kelly is being massively overpaid. I like the player but at 8.5m yikes. Brad Hand signed for 1/6m. How do you pay Kelly more than that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 hours ago, BigHurt3515 said: I think we overpaid for Joe Kelly An injured Joe Kelly at that. 55 minutes ago, wrathofhahn said: Joe Kelly is being massively overpaid. I like the player but at 8.5m yikes. Brad Hand signed for 1/6m. How do you pay Kelly more than that? Enjoy the guy’s personality, but if he was signed in place of Tepera then I don’t understand it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Isn't there a 3rd year attached to this too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Isn't there a 3rd year attached to this too? Option/buyout…$9.5 million vs. $1 million. Let’s not forget the Dodgers paid him $4 million to get lost…when they were likely losing Jansen as well. Edited March 15, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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