caulfield12 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Just now, PolishPrince34 said: I’m staying away from Montas at that price and past knee issues with all the weight he carries. I’m all in on trading for Manaea and signing him to an extension. Fine with Burger or Sheets headlining the deal. What kind of extension? Instead of Giolito? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: I’m staying away from Montas at that price and past knee issues with all the weight he carries. I’m all in on trading for Manaea and signing him to an extension. Fine with Burger or Sheets headlining the deal. This is what I want as well. Feels like Oakland has multiple suitors and is waiting for someone to sweeten the pot before they pull the trigger on a trade though. Edited March 18, 2022 by DirtySox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 When crochet came he was suppose to be chris sale but if he was chris sale he would be in the rotation by now. I don’t know what he is except a lefthander .if he is not chris sale then get something for him, if he is chris sale then get him in the rotation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, BigHurt3515 said: Vaughn/Sheets/Engel in RF it is that was last spring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: What kind of extension? Instead of Giolito? We have $60 million off the books next year if you include Abreu and Kimbrel. He makes 10.2 million this year and give him a 3 year extension between 12-15 million per. Would still have plenty of money for Giolito. Edited March 18, 2022 by PolishPrince34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I don’t trust the longevity of splitter-throwing pitchers. I want nothing to do with Montas at these prices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, PolishPrince34 said: We have $60 million off the books next year if you include Abreu. He makes 10.2 million this year and give him a 3 year extension between 12-15 million per. Would still have plenty of money for Giolito. Balta? 75% believe Abreu will still be around next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, PolishPrince34 said: We have $60 million off the books next year if you include Abreu. He makes 10.2 million this year and give him a 3 year extension between 12-15 million per. Would still have plenty of money for Giolito. Abreu will go year to year if he comes back he doesn’t want another team and the Sox want him but not long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, quickman said: When crochet came he was suppose to be chris sale but if he was chris sale he would be in the rotation by now. I don’t know what he is except a lefthander .if he is not chris sale then get something for him, if he is chris sale then get him in the rotation. Sale didn't start until his age 23 season, Crochet will turn 23 in June, I don't think it's unreasonable to give him another year in the pen before deciding what he is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 38 minutes ago, quickman said: So a lot of people on this board want conforto but he is one of the last people to sign or even be mentioned to sign. What do others know about him or why hasn’t he signed . If he is that good that everyone on here drools why hasn’t anyone signed him? All of the 4 biggest FA names remaining have qualifying offers attached. So did Freeman, who didn’t go until last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, JoeCredeYes said: Sale didn't start until his age 23 season, Crochet will turn 23 in June, I don't think it's unreasonable to give him another year in the pen before deciding what he is. Good point but crochet pitches with the Sox the same year he was drafted not sure sale did that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: All of the 4 biggest FA names remaining have qualifying offers attached. So did Freeman, who didn’t go until last night. Do qualifying offers still exist in the new agreement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, JoeCredeYes said: Sale didn't start until his age 23 season, Crochet will turn 23 in June, I don't think it's unreasonable to give him another year in the pen before deciding what he is. Sale had also thrown 280 innings in the combined 2 years before being drafted. Crochet has never throw 100 in a season. Big difference. If the white Sox wanted him as a starter they needed to take their time and work him in the minors more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, quickman said: Good point but crochet pitches with the Sox the same year he was drafted not sure sale did that. He did in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 Abreu will be getting similar deals to what Nelson Cruz 1/13 million would get. Abreu will be a dh sooner rather than later. I know Abreu is a little younger, but his body has taken a beating the past couple years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, quickman said: Good point but crochet pitches with the Sox the same year he was drafted not sure sale did that. Yes, Chris was up weeks after signing. That infamous at bat where Joe Mauer went basically “what the hell was that” after striking out was like 2 months after he was drafted. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 3 minutes ago, quickman said: Do qualifying offers still exist in the new agreement? Maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxForce2 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, PolishPrince34 said: We have $60 million off the books next year if you include Abreu. He makes 10.2 million this year and give him a 3 year extension between 12-15 million per. Would still have plenty of money for Giolito. It's pretty obvious, if the Sox are giving up anything substantial, bringing in Manea would almost have to come with an extension in mind. Otherwise you're paying a premium for a rental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 1 minute ago, quickman said: Do qualifying offers still exist in the new agreement? For this year yes. They were already offered before the CBA expired. They go away next year. The fact that they do suppress the market for guys this much is why the players wanted them gone so badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeCredeYes Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Sale had also thrown 280 innings in the combined 2 years before being drafted. Crochet has never throw 100 in a season. Big difference. If the white Sox wanted him as a starter they needed to take their time and work him in the minors more. It's Garrett's fault for being so good right away. Whatever he turns out to be I hate to deal him this young unless a bonafide ace with a better track record than Montas comes back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 48 minutes ago, quickman said: So a lot of people on this board want conforto but he is one of the last people to sign or even be mentioned to sign. What do others know about him or why hasn’t he signed . If he is that good that everyone on here drools why hasn’t anyone signed him? So by that logic, Carlos Correa sucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, FoxForce2 said: It's pretty obvious, if the Sox are giving up anything substantial, bringing in Manea would almost have to come with an extension in mind. Otherwise you're paying a premium for a rental. Realistically assuming arb offers to obvious guys like Gio and Cease, and with Keuchel gone, the white sox’s payroll next year is already $170 million+. If $190 is an issue this year, are we comfortable having $190 on the books for 2023? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KBX Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, quickman said: When crochet came he was suppose to be chris sale but if he was chris sale he would be in the rotation by now. I don’t know what he is except a lefthander .if he is not chris sale then get something for him, if he is chris sale then get him in the rotation. I was under the impression that this year he can be a depth guy and an opener — just multi-inning stuff including postseason where that kind of thing tends to be a huge asset. Come next year he would need a third pitch and be #5 and someone else a depth guy. That's just a rough timeline that seems realistic. Though I don't know what they think at the moment. 8 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Sale had also thrown 280 innings in the combined 2 years before being drafted. Crochet has never throw 100 in a season. Big difference. If the white Sox wanted him as a starter they needed to take their time and work him in the minors more. In all honesty Crochet is the most reliever looking guy I've ever seen. Then again #2 is Sale. As much as Gavin looks like an Oakland A, Crochet is tenfold more a reliever when you just glance at him. However, barring too many injuries I'd be surprised if Crochet weren't a valuable MLB asset one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 36 minutes ago, flavum said: Sheets and Crochet for Montas, I’d probably have to say yes. I’d prefer Manaea over the guy with a PED suspension though. I’m not trading Vaughn this year. Period. Gross. I’d rather just hang onto Crochet and sign someone like Pineda. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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