HOFHurt35 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 So who's left from teams looking to crack a 9 figure contract for the first time? Sox, Pirates, A's? It's shameful JR owns a team on this list, Lucas Giolito should have been that guy this offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Just now, fathom said: Guardians make so much sense for Conforto Not sure about 4-5 years, but 2-3 makes a TON of sense and their draft pick loss will be mitigated due to being a competitive balance team. So they have to look at 3 more internal extensions (doubt that includes Plesac and Civale) versus what they can come up with for Conforto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: So who's left from teams looking to crack a 9 figure contract for the first time? Sox, Pirates, A's? It's shameful JR owns a team on this list, Lucas Giolito should have been that guy this offseason. https://www.mlb.com/news/every-team-s-largest-contracts If you adjust for inflation, the Eric Chavez extension deal for 6/$66 from almost two decades ago would beat Grandal and Moncada. So Pittsburgh... It's even more amusing with the White Sox the only large market team in the division and the only one of five not in the competitive balance category. Edited April 6, 2022 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: https://www.mlb.com/news/every-team-s-largest-contracts If you adjust for inflation, the Eric Chavez extension deal for 6/$66 from almost two decades ago would beat Grandal and Moncada. So Pittsburgh... And Albert Belle goes to $99.5M Frank's 1999 extension goes to $109,671,731.09. MAGIC 3 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 20 minutes ago, Quin said: And Albert Belle goes to $99.5M Frank's 1999 extension goes to $109,671,731.09. MAGIC Sounds like the beginning of yet another positivity thread… I would hope they would be generous with what were two HoF-bound players at the time those deals were inked. White Sox have offered bigger deals than historic Pirates and A’s franchises! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Sounds like the beginning of yet another positivity thread… I would hope they would be generous with what were two HoF-bound players at the time those deals were inked. White Sox have offered bigger deals than historic Pirates and A’s franchises! No, I'm rebutting the stupid inflation point. I'm not about to drop an analysis of "here's why the Sox HAVE actually given out great contracts" because of inflation and deals offered to Manny Machado and Alex Rodriguez. It's embarrassing that they haven't signed any nine figure deals, but I'm not going to say that because of inflation, the extension the A's gave Eric Chavez in 2004 is bigger the Yasmani Grandal's because that opens a can of worms and strawman arguments. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Quin said: No, I'm rebutting the stupid inflation point. I'm not about to drop an analysis of "here's why the Sox HAVE actually given out great contracts" because of inflation and deals offered to Manny Machado and Alex Rodriguez. It's embarrassing that they haven't signed any nine figure deals, but I'm not going to say that because of inflation, the extension the A's gave Eric Chavez in 2004 is bigger the Yasmani Grandal's because that opens a can of worms and strawman arguments. If you compare a difference of $66 million in 2006 against $73.5 million 13 years later... how else would you make a comparison? It's the exact same thing with box office receipts over time for the Top 100 movies across significant time gaps or periods of inflation, like the late 70s/early 80s. That way it's apples to apples and not apples to oranges. There has to be a base year established. The Belle deal was essentially done to spite the rest of baseball owners, JR clearly didn't want to carry that contract on the books... but to make a painful point to the rest of baseball. Which was that offering those massive FA deals would ruin the sport and spoil the union. It's hardly a ringing endorsement of franchise generosity. Edited April 6, 2022 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: If you compare a difference of $66 million in 2006 against $73.5 million 13 years later... how else would you make a comparison? It's the exact same thing with box office receipts over time for the Top 100 movies across significant time gaps or periods of inflation, like the late 70s/early 80s. That way it's apples to apples and not apples to oranges. There has to be a base year established. The Belle deal was essentially done to spite the rest of baseball owners, JR clearly didn't want to carry that contract on the books... but to make a painful point to the rest of baseball. Which was that offering those massive FA deals would ruin the sport and spoil the union. It's hardly a ringing endorsement of franchise generosity. Mate you're comparing apples and pears. Yeah, they're pome fruits, but they're different due to circumstances. In this case, the circumstance being time. Either the circumstances you've introduced now absolve the Sox of sin (except, you're somehow still magically trying to ding them for them) or we don't count them as $100M deals because they literally are not $100M deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, fathom said: Guardians make so much sense for Conforto Detroit makes so much sense to me. I predict the Tigers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Detroit makes so much sense to me. I predict the Tigers They just traded for Meadows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, chw42 said: They just traded for Meadows Yeah the only way Conforto (or another OF) makes sense is if they cut bait with Cabrera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Brewers need a catcher. Maybe Sox can glean a useful pitcher out of the Crew for Seby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Hurtin Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 8 hours ago, Sleepy Harold said: When Reinsdorf heard the news 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Could be injury or making the OD roster related, but Larnach would make sense as one of the pieces going to Oakland for Montas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Could be injury or making the OD roster related, but Larnach would make sense as one of the pieces going to Oakland for Montas He later clarified that he's not playing due to wet field conditions and tightness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Sleepy Harold said: Damn...Caratini was a guy we should have pursued. Inexpensive, hits LH and solid D. Milwaukee gave very little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Flash said: Damn...Caratini was a guy we should have pursued. Inexpensive, hits LH and solid D. Milwaukee gave very little. I completely agree maybe it tells you have bad our prospects are regarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) Edited April 6, 2022 by KrankinSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Paddack is going to Minnesota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 https://m.startribune.com/twins-pitching-rotation-slow-build-prospects-lavelle-neal/600162504/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 1 hour ago, ChiSox59 said: He later clarified that he's not playing due to wet field conditions and tightness. Or not??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: Paddack is going to Minnesota Rather they get him than Montas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Plouffe has us in the World Series. He got the teams and number of games right last year, FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, soxfan49 said: Or not??? I hope they give up Larnach for a damaged Paddack. That would be bonkers and I’m huge Paddack guy. Paddack is prob a coin flip to survive this season without TJS and he’s a non tender candidate next year if he gets it. Edited April 6, 2022 by ChiSox59 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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