ptatc Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 19 minutes ago, fathom said: Just wait for the reaction if Kopech looks bad tonight Grabbing the popcorn now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 43 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: You have called the Guardians the wrong name at least 3 times in 24 hours. TBF, they'll always be the Indians to me. Just like the Sox always will play in Comiskey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 minutes ago, Capn12 said: TBF, they'll always be the Indians to me. Just like the Sox always will play in Comiskey. INDIANS IS RACIST! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Just now, Capn12 said: TBF, they'll always be the Indians to me. Just like the Sox always will play in Comiskey. Charles Comiskey was such an jerk to his players that several of them threw a World Series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 On WS Talk podcast, Stoney said he thought Kimbrel is likely to be traded if a team has an injury to their bullpen. Doesn’t sound like anything imminent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, fathom said: On WS Talk podcast, Stoney said he thought Kimbrel is likely to be traded if a team has an injury to their bullpen. Doesn’t sound like anything imminent. Ugh, now we gotta hope he fixes himself. I was hoping he'd be someone else's problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 Just now, chw42 said: Ugh, now we gotta hope he fixes himself. I was hoping he'd be someone else's problem. Yep and Stoney even said Kimbrel mentally doesn’t like not being the closer. I personally think it’s a horrible decision keeping him on the roster for a role he doesn’t want. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, Capn12 said: TBF, they'll always be the Indians to me. Just like the Sox always will play in Comiskey. I thought their name was Savages. Something neutral. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 21 minutes ago, fathom said: Yep and Stoney even said Kimbrel mentally doesn’t like not being the closer. I personally think it’s a horrible decision keeping him on the roster for a role he doesn’t want. Let him close then and see if it works. If it doesn't, you lose 2 extra games in april in a division that will be won by 10 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Let him close then and see if it works. If it doesn't, you lose 2 extra games in april in a division that will be won by 10 games. And get the #3 seed as opposed to the #2 seed. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimpton Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 49 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: INDIANS IS RACIST! No it isn't it has just become culturally unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 23 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Let him close then and see if it works. If it doesn't, you lose 2 extra games in april in a division that will be won by 10 games. If his stuff and control still look like crap, there's no point. Having him close doesn't automatically make him better. One of his best outings last year with the Sox was in the 8th inning against Cleveland. In the few chances he did get to close, he wasn't dramatically better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 48 minutes ago, fathom said: Yep and Stoney even said Kimbrel mentally doesn’t like not being the closer. I personally think it’s a horrible decision keeping him on the roster for a role he doesn’t want. Reason 10,000 as to why you cut your losses and give Rodon the QO. This mistake just keeps expounding itself. I liked the trade but obviously there has been no due diligence on the pitcher's capabilities and desires. I wouldn't mind Hendricks in the Kopech role of last year going a couple of innings in a tight spot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 17 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: Reason 10,000 as to why you cut your losses and give Rodon the QO. This mistake just keeps expounding itself. I liked the trade but obviously there has been no due diligence on the pitcher's capabilities and desires. I wouldn't mind Hendricks in the Kopech role of last year going a couple of innings in a tight spot. The Kopech role is going to Crochet to build up innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) The problem with trading Kimbrel now is you are only going to get pennies on the dollar. If he's doing well, a team will want him, but then, why give him up? A contending team isn't going to give up a contributor. If he is doing poorly, it would be a salary dump. Total market misread amateurs like me saw coming from miles away. Edited March 31, 2022 by Dick Allen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: The problem with trading Kimbrel now is you are only going to get pennies on the dollar. If he's doing well, a team will want him, but then, why give him up? A contending team isn't going to give up a contributor. If he is doing poorly, it would be a salary dump. Total market misread, in which amateurs like me saw coming from miles away. Yeah, but you don't have a law degree from Harvard so what the hell do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Chimpton said: No it isn't it has just become culturally unacceptable. Sorry, but a long standing misnomered nickname for an entire indigenous people group with no relation to the Indian subcontinent based solely on similar color of skin is in fact racist. Being in common usage doesn't make it right. Edited March 31, 2022 by Tnetennba 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, chw42 said: Yeah, but you don't have a law degree from Harvard so what the hell do you know? He's clearly an insider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, fathom said: Yep and Stoney even said Kimbrel mentally doesn’t like not being the closer. I personally think it’s a horrible decision keeping him on the roster for a role he doesn’t want. If all it takes to fix Kimbrel is making him the closer, and he's going to be on the roster anyways, not giving him the closer role would be insanity La Russa isn't the manager to do this, but Hendriks would probably be more valuable as a high leverage relief ace rather than a traditional closer, assuming that it's something he would be willing to try 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 12 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: If all it takes to fix Kimbrel is making him the closer, and he's going to be on the roster anyways, not giving him the closer role would be insanity La Russa isn't the manager to do this, but Hendriks would probably be more valuable as a high leverage relief ace rather than a traditional closer, assuming that it's something he would be willing to try I am someone that believes routine does matter quite a bit for relievers. But the idea that kimbrel is magically solved in the closer role just seems like such a farce. He was still eaten up in the playoffs, was that not enough adrenaline? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Chimpton said: No it isn't it has just become culturally unacceptable. Oh it 100% is racist. The history and the origins of the term, along with how we applied to to entire populations regardless of their actual tribal and political histories to dehumanize, subjugate, and conquer them over our 500ish year European history here in the Americas is unequivocal. There were definitely times of acceptance for these types of terms, but them being accepted doesn't change the history behind them. If we were talking about actual tribal names, we could talk, but this term isn't that. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Balta1701 said: And get the #3 seed as opposed to the #2 seed. Again. Or it works and we are the #1 seed. Risk I am willing to take. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, HOFHurt35 said: The Sox biggest issue isn't spending money for free agents. It continues to be drafting and developing. While 100% true, effectively filling needs via free agency is far more critical to maximizing our chances to win a championship in 2022. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Vaughn, Kath and Rodriguez would get their attention. Deal should be done yesterday then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, fathom said: Yep and Stoney even said Kimbrel mentally doesn’t like not being the closer. I personally think it’s a horrible decision keeping him on the roster for a role he doesn’t want. If we’re going down this insane path, why not just make Kimbrel the closer for three months? I get it sucks for Hendriks, but he’s already said he’d be ok with it and in all honesty it allows you to use Hendriks in even higher leverage situations than Tony normally does by limiting him to the 9th. Unfortunately it’s very clear the org’s plan is to ignore Kimbrel’s dislike of a setup role and simply hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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