ChiSox59 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, VAfan said: The Sox are not trading Gavin Sheets. They have no one who can come close to replacing his production against right handed pitchers. To trade him would create a hole in the lineup. Plus, he's cheap and under control. Vaughn? Second worst hitter on the team against righties last year. I'm sure he will improve, but so will Sheets. Sox need more power hitting lefties, not fewer ones. I agree Sox need more lefties. But Vaughn is an elite offense talent. Sheets very well could just be a guy. It’s Sheets that has no where to play right now, not Vaughn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 41 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I just don’t know if the juice is worth the squeeze. I am not even sure if Manaea would be in this playoff rotation. If Kopech is still pitching in October (fingers crossed) and Cease takes another slight step forward (I think he will), Manaea is our 5 starter in October. I’d certainly take him, but the price has to be right. Winning a bidding war for a guy that maybe makes us win the division by 10-12 games instead of 8-10 games isn’t worth ravaging our already very thin farm. Sheets straight up is probably the most id give, but I’d certain prefer to keep Sheets. Still prefer something like Kelly/Dalquist/Thompson + Adolfo + backend top 20 type. You’re assuming everyone is healthy come October and it’s very possible someone is hurt or Kopech has simply run out of juice. Either way, it’s very apparent that relying on Kopech & Keuchel to fill out 2/5 of our rotation this year is incredibly risky. We need another horse and it appears the organization feels this way. I don’t want to pay a ridiculous price for Manaea, but I also don’t bad luck with the rotation to derail our season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You’re assuming everyone is healthy come October and it’s very possible someone is hurt or Kopech has simply run out of juice. Either way, it’s very apparent that relying on Kopech & Keuchel to fill out 2/5 of our rotation this year is incredibly risky. We need another horse and it appears the organization feels this way. I don’t want to pay a ridiculous price for Manaea, but I also don’t bad luck with the rotation to derail our season. I think that’s all fair. Not against adding Manaea at all. Just not at any cost. There are definitely a handful of names even in our weak system I’m not moving for a max of ~ 30 Manaea starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 58 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Inside info? Nope, just feels like too much smoke and given we’re less than a week away from Opening Day we’re quickly approaching a boiling point. And with Kimbrel moved and $5M in cash now available, I think Hahn gets a bit more aggressive with his offers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 55 minutes ago, VAfan said: The Sox are not trading Gavin Sheets. They have no one who can come close to replacing his production against right handed pitchers. To trade him would create a hole in the lineup. Plus, he's cheap and under control. Vaughn? Second worst hitter on the team against righties last year. I'm sure he will improve, but so will Sheets. Sox need more power hitting lefties, not fewer ones. I’d love to keep Sheets, but with Pollock in the fold Gavin is going to get squeezed for at-bats as there is zero chance they go with a straight Sheets-Vaughn DH platoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 23 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: I would have loved to see the Sox pick a chunk of Hosmer and one of their big time SP or C in a deal like this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted April 2, 2022 Author Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I’d love to keep Sheets, but with Pollock in the fold Gavin is going to get squeezed for at-bats as there is zero chance they go with a straight Sheets-Vaughn DH platoon. Against the better RHP at least, Sheets needs to be in the lineup. There's just not enough other pop from the left side. Vaughn can spell Eloy or Jose on some of those days. Edited April 2, 2022 by CentralChamps21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Sounds like Vaughn++ for Manaea is a possibility: ?????????????????????????????? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 minute ago, CentralChamps21 said: Against the better RHP at least, Sheets needs to be in the lineup. There's just not enough other pop from the left side. Vaughn can spell Eloy or Jose on some of those days. Sure, but if Sheets is the cost to upgrade from Keuchel to Manaea then I don’t think we have a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sounds like Vaughn++ for Manaea is a possibility: ?????????????????????????????? Phil Rogers is astoundingly bad at assessing baseball. Yeesh. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sounds like Vaughn++ for Manaea is a possibility: ?????????????????????????????? Phil is still trying to get Curtis Granderson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sounds like Vaughn++ for Manaea is a possibility: ?????????????????????????????? I will absolutely lose my mind if this happens. Sox can’t possibly be that dumb. Right!?!? that being said, Phil Rogers doesn’t know Jack shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Sounds like Vaughn++ for Manaea is a possibility: ?????????????????????????????? No chance, let’s not be ridiculous about this. I wouldn’t give up Vaughn for him let alone Vaughn plus others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 I think we have also confirmed a certain Soxtalk poster's real life ID. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I will absolutely lose my mind if this happens. Sox can’t possibly be that dumb. Right!?!? that being said, Phil Rogers doesn’t know Jack shit. Zero chance it happens…just mind boggling that Phil Rogers still gets paid to cover baseball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Hopefully Phil reads the comments on Twitter. They’re pretty funny. Vaughn isn’t getting traded to Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Zero chance it happens…just mind boggling that Phil Rogers still gets paid to cover baseball. Yeah that’s just crazy. I don’t know if the Sox would trade Vaughn for Montas let alone Manaea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Just now, HahnsKiddieTable said: Yeah that’s just crazy. I don’t know if the Sox would trade Vaughn for Montas let alone Manaea I think zero chance they trade him for Montas who doesn’t have a lengthy track record and has some physical concerns as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 1 hour ago, SoCalChiSox said: Inside info? Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 41 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: wowzer... I'd have done this. Only 6 million for Hosmer and you get Paddack? I'd love Paddack as our 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: I will absolutely lose my mind if this happens. Sox can’t possibly be that dumb. Right!?!? that being said, Phil Rogers doesn’t know Jack shit. Could you fucking imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Could you fucking imagine. Makes my skin crawl doing such imagining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) Do we really need a horse 30 starts though? I mean I’d love to get Keuchel out of the rotation before the season starts, but aren’t the Sox more likely to let him fail all April/May to pretend they honored their contract to a veteran blah blah? So if trade for Manaea now, are we going 6 man for a couple months until Dallas implodes himself out? Edited April 2, 2022 by Jerksticks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jerksticks said: Do we really need a horse 30 starts though? I mean I’d love to get Keuchel out of the rotation before the season starts, but aren’t the Sox more likely to let him fail all April/May to pretend they honored their contract to a veteran blah blah? So if trade for Manaea now, are we going 6 man for a couple months until Dallas implodes himself out? Kopech is a glorified opener right now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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