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Andrew Vaughn hurts hip pointer, out 1-2 weeks per White Sox


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2 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

The criticism goes to the dumb fucks who thought it was a good idea to play him out there.

Great point. You've been around the game a lot. So why is it that some players can play multiple positions and others like AC can't? Athleticism? 

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14 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

Scroll to the bottom where the comments are. Poster said that he saw a preliminary report that it’s a dislocated hip and he will be out 3 months. 

https://soxmachine.com/2022/03/27/andrew-vaughn-injury-spring-training/#comment-9089871

Seeing the play on TV, AV's response doesn't seem to be in line with what google says about a "dislocated hip."   I am skeptical until we get more info.

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18 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

Scroll to the bottom where the comments are. Poster said that he saw a preliminary report that it’s a dislocated hip and he will be out 3 months. 

https://soxmachine.com/2022/03/27/andrew-vaughn-injury-spring-training/#comment-9089871

I'm pretty sure this person is just recanting what they saw on twitter from two randoms who posted that 5 hours ago.

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18 minutes ago, maloney.adam said:

Scroll to the bottom where the comments are. Poster said that he saw a preliminary report that it’s a dislocated hip and he will be out 3 months. 

https://soxmachine.com/2022/03/27/andrew-vaughn-injury-spring-training/#comment-9089871

Sox front office apparently has more leaks than the RNC during the Watergate Era.

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11 minutes ago, Texsox said:

Great point. You've been around the game a lot. So why is it that some players can play multiple positions and others like AC can't? Athleticism? 

Athleticism, instincts, feel, experience.  Vaughn played 1B for a reason and it's because he lacks the defensive ability to play a more difficult position.  He looked like he was running thru quick sand.  It was a routine play and Vaughn had to belly flop to make it while guys like Betts, Harper, Heyward, etc all catch that ball in their back pocket. Vaughn lacks the neccessary skills to be a big league outfielder and if he somehow avoids injury today it's just delaying the inevitable.   

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11 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Athleticism, instincts, feel, experience.  Vaughn played 1B for a reason and it's because he lacks the defensive ability to play a more difficult position.  He looked like he was running thru quick sand.  It was a routine play and Vaughn had to belly flop to make it while guys like Betts, Harper, Heyward, etc all catch that ball in their back pocket. Vaughn lacks the neccessary skills to be a big league outfielder and if he somehow avoids injury today it's just delaying the inevitable.   

I actually think Vaughn has decent instincts in the OF, given he's probably never played there outside of little league or maybe high school. He just lacks any sort of speed to play out there. 

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10 minutes ago, chw42 said:

I actually think Vaughn has decent instincts in the OF, given he's probably never played there outside of little league or maybe high school. He just lacks any sort of speed to play out there. 

The other thing that shows up in the stats a lot last year is that he has a weak throwing arm. A full year in RF might make that really important.

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This is all so dumb because this whole thing would have been avoided by getting a real right fielder to play right field this season. It didn’t have to be Conforto. It could be anyone. Anyone who naturally plays RF. How hard is it? You spend 183 million and you can’t spend 10% more to field one position adequately. 

I don’t really care if Vaughn didn’t play as much because he was splitting backup LF / backup 1B / Platoon DH. He could get more seasoning this year and be full time 1b next year. Now we have to wonder if he’s even going to play this year. 

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4 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

The other thing that shows up in the stats a lot last year is that he has a weak throwing arm. A full year in RF might make that really important.

The strange thing is that he can throw around 85 mph from out there...according to Statcast.  But then there's the issue of accuracy, hitting the cut off man, more instinctual plays.  Just looked much more confident in LF.

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2 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said:

This is all so dumb because this whole thing would have been avoided by getting a real right fielder to play right field this season. It didn’t have to be Conforto. It could be anyone. Anyone who naturally plays RF. How hard is it? You spend 183 million and you can’t spend 10% more to field one position adequately. 

I don’t really care if Vaughn didn’t play as much because he was splitting backup LF / backup 1B / Platoon DH. He could get more seasoning this year and be full time 1b next year. Now we have to wonder if he’s even going to play this year. 

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3 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said:

This is all so dumb because this whole thing would have been avoided by getting a real right fielder to play right field this season. It didn’t have to be Conforto. It could be anyone. Anyone who naturally plays RF. How hard is it? You spend 183 million and you can’t spend 10% more to field one position adequately. 

I don’t really care if Vaughn didn’t play as much because he was splitting backup LF / backup 1B / Platoon DH. He could get more seasoning this year and be full time 1b next year. Now we have to wonder if he’s even going to play this year. 

If he is injured for a lengthy period of time, the White Sox must now be setting a purely subjective baseball record for worst handling of a consensus Top 5 pick, at least in recent history.

Any worse examples come to mind?

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35 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Athleticism, instincts, feel, experience.  Vaughn played 1B for a reason and it's because he lacks the defensive ability to play a more difficult position.  He looked like he was running thru quick sand.  It was a routine play and Vaughn had to belly flop to make it while guys like Betts, Harper, Heyward, etc all catch that ball in their back pocket. Vaughn lacks the neccessary skills to be a big league outfielder and if he somehow avoids injury today it's just delaying the inevitable.   

Vaughn was more than serviceable in LF.

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1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said:

Athleticism, instincts, feel, experience.  Vaughn played 1B for a reason and it's because he lacks the defensive ability to play a more difficult position.  He looked like he was running thru quick sand.  It was a routine play and Vaughn had to belly flop to make it while guys like Betts, Harper, Heyward, etc all catch that ball in their back pocket. Vaughn lacks the neccessary skills to be a big league outfielder and if he somehow avoids injury today it's just delaying the inevitable.   

Stop it with this "routine play" bullshit narrative.

If it was so routine, Robert would have tracked it himself.  It was a legit gapper, nothing routine about that.

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24 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said:

Stop it with this "routine play" bullshit narrative.

If it was so routine, Robert would have tracked it himself.  It was a legit gapper, nothing routine about that.

Routine catch for Billy Hamilton or Engel (100% healthy version), maybe...

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7 hours ago, Texsox said:

Great point. You've been around the game a lot. So why is it that some players can play multiple positions and others like AC can't? Athleticism? 

I'm not sure the injury can be blamed on playing the OF, everyone can get hurt but when it comes to multi position ability it is generally easier to adjust to a position to your left in the defensive spectrum. 

The defensive spectrum is considered DH-1b-LF-RF-3B-CF-2b-ss-c and generally switching to the left of the spectrum is much easier. 

There are exceptions of course and it is not linear but generally a SS can play all IF spots, a CF can play all OF spots and a first baseman can only play first and DH albeit there are exceptions to this too (bellinger for example). 

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