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Interesting how the antivax players don't have an issue trusting medical experts when their elbows blow out or they pull a hammy.

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Given that 10 out of 26 players didn’t get vaccinated, it really doesn’t seem like the “bullying culture” you suggest had any impact.  But that works both ways. Given what I posted earlier with t

maxjusttyped
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Unless you're in the microscopic percentage of the population who is too immunocompromised to receive the vaccine, there is no "reward" for anyone not to get the shot. Anti vax talking points like thi

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James McCann becomes the 62nd MLB catcher to catch 2 or more no-hitters. He becomes the sixth White Sox (Bold) and eighth player in MLB history with at least one game caught in two leagues (italics / underlined).

Of the 315 Official No Hitters in MLB history, 144 or nearly half (45.7%) were caught by these 62 catchers. 

Thirteen of these 62 catchers caught two no-hitters from the same pitcher: (Yogi Berra, Roy Campanella, Nig Clarke, Lou Criger, Silver Flint, Ryan Hanigan, Fran Healy, King Kelly, Ernie Lombardi, Jimmy Peoples, Wilson Ramos, Johnny Roseboro & Carlos Ruiz (twice - Halladay and Hamels, the second a split NH)).

Many fans are aware of Johnny Vander Meer's back to back no-hitters across two starts. One trivia piece most fans including Sox fans are aware of is the fact that the Chicago White Sox are the only team in MLB history to have been no-hit across two consecutive days (May 5 & 6, 1917 vs. the Saint Louis Browns at Sportsman's Park (Saint Louis, not Cicero)). However, the second no hitter on May 6th followed Game 1 of a Doubleheader, the Sox losing 8-4.

May 5, 1917 - Saint Louis Browns 1 vs. Chicago White Sox 0, Attendance 4,000

May 6, 1917 - Saint Louis Browns 3 vs. Chicago White Sox 0, Attendance 20,000

Four No-Hitters (2 Catchers)

  • Carlos Ruiz (NL Philadelphia (4) 2010 Roy Halladay (twice); 2014 (C. Hamels (6 IP), J. Diekman (1), K. Giles (1) & J. Papelbon (1)) & 2015 Cole Hamels)
  • Jason Veritek (AL Boston (4) 2001 Hideo Nomo; 2002 Derek Lowe; 2007 Clay Buchholz & 2008 Jon Lester)

Three No-Hitters (16 Catchers)

  • Alan Ashby (NL Houston (3) 1979 Ken Forsch; 1981 Nolan Ryan; 1986 Mike Scott) 
  • Yogi Berra (AL New York (3) 1951 Allie Reynolds (twice) & 1956 Don Larsen (Playoffs))
  • Roy Campanella (NL Brooklyn (3) 1952 Carl Erskine; 1956 Carl Erskine & 1956 Sal Maglie)
  • Bill Carrigan (AL Boston (3) 1911 Smoky Joe Wood; 1916 Rube Foster & 1916 Dutch Leonard)
  • Del Crandall (NL Milwaukee (3) 1954 Jim Wilson; 1960 Lew Burdette & 1960 Warren Spahn)
  • Lou Criger (AL Boston (3) 1904 Cy Young; 1905 Bill Dinneen & 1908 Cy Young)
  • Silver Flint (NL Chicago (3) 1880 Split Catcher Game with King Kelly - Larry Corcoran; 1882 Larry Corcoran & 1885 John Clarkson)
  • Jim Hegan (AL Cleveland (3) 1947 Don Black; 1948 Bob Lemon & 1951 Bob Feller)
  • Charles Johnson (NL Florida (3) 1996 Al Leiter; 1997 Kevin Brown & 2001 A. J. Burnett)
  • Ed McFarland (NL Boston 1898 Red Donahue &  AL Chicago 1902 Nixey Callahan & 1905 Frank Smith)
  • Val Picinich (AL Philadelphia 1916 Bullet Joe Bush; AL Washington 1920 Walter Johnson & AL Boston 1923 Howard Ehmke)
  • Buster Posey (NL San Francisco (3) 2012 Matt Cain; 2013 Tim Lincecum & 2015 Chris Heston)
  • Wilson Ramos (NL Washington (3) 2014 Jordan Zimmermann & 2015 Max Scherzer (twice))
  • Ray Schalk (AL Chicago 1914 Joe Benz; 1917 Eddie Cicotte & 1922 Charlie Robertson)
  • Luke Sewell (AL Cleveland 1931 Wes Ferrell & AL Chicago (2) 1935 Vern Kennedy & 1937 Bill Dietrich)
  • Jeff Torborg (NL Los Angeles (2) 1965 Sandy Koufax & 1970 Bill Singer; AL California 1973 Nolan Ryan)

Two No-Hitters (44 Catchers)

  • Joe Azcue (AL Cleveland 1966 Sonny Siebert & AL California 1970 Clyde Wright)
  • John Bateman (NL Houston 1963 Don Nottebart & NL Montreal 1969 Bill Stoneman)
  • Drew Butera (AL Minnesota 2011 Francisco Liriano & NL Los Angeles 2014 Josh Beckett)
  • Victor Caratini (NL Chicago 2020 Alec Mills & NL San Diego 2021 Joe Musgrove)
  • Nig Clarke (AL Cleveland (2) 1908 Addie Joss & 1910 Addie Joss)
  • Walker Cooper (NL Saint Louis 1941 Lon Warneke & NL Boston 1950 Vern Bickford)
  • Johnny Edwards (NL Cincinnati 1965 Jim Maloney & NL Saint Louis 1968 Ray Washburn)
  • Ray Fosse (AL Oakland 1975 (Vida Blue & Glenn Abbott caught by Gene Tenace, Paul Lindblad and Rollie Fingers by Ray Fosse) & AL Cleveland 1977 Dennis Eckersley) 
  • Charlie Ganzel (NL Philadelphia 1885 Charlie Ferguson & NL Boston 1892 Jack Stivetts)
  • Joe Girardi (AL New York (2) 1996 Dwight Gooden & 1999 David Cone)
  • Ryan Hanigan (NL Cincinnati (2) 2012 Homer Bailey & 2013 Homer Bailey)
  • Ron Hassey (AL Cleveland 1981 Len Barker & NL Montreal 1991 Dennis Martinez)
  • Fran Healy (AL Kansas City (2) 1973 Steve Busby & 1974 Steve Busby)
  • Randy Hundley (NL Chicago (2) 1972 Burt Hooton & 1972 Milt Pappas)
  • Ron Karkovice (AL Chicago (2) 1986 Joe Cowley & 1991 Wilson Alvarez)
  • King Kelly (NL Chicago (2) 1880 Split Catcher Game with Silver Flint - Larry Corcoran & 1884 Larry Corcoran)
  • Randy Kemmier (AA Columbus (2) 1884 Ed Morris & 1884 Frank Mountain)
  • Ernie Lombardi (NL Cincinnati (2) 1938 Johnny Vander Meer - Back to Back)
  • James McCann (AL Chicago 2020 Lucas Giolito & NL New York 2022 T. Megill (5 IP), D. Smith (1 1/3), J. Rodriguez (1), S. Lugo (2/3) & E. Diaz (1))
  • Tim McCarver (NL Philadelphia 1971 Rick Wise & NL Montreal 1972 Bill Stoneman)
  • Miguel Montero (NL Arizona 2010 Edwin Jackson & NL Chicago 2015 Jake Arrieta)
  • Miguel Olivo (NL Florida 2006 Anibal Sanchez & NL Colorado 2010 Ubaldo Jimenez)
  • Jim Pagliaroni (AL Boston 1962 Bill Monbouquette & AL Oakland 1968 Catfish Hunter)
  • Lance Parrish (AL Detroit 1984 Jack Morris & AL California 1990 (Mark Langston (7 IP) & Mike Witt (2 IP))
  • Heinie Peitz (NL Cincinnati (2) 1898 Ted Breitenstein & 1900 Noodles Hahn)
  • Jimmy Peoples (AA Brooklyn (2) 1886 Adonis Terry & 1888 Adonis Terry)
  • Mike Piazza (NL Dodgers (2) 1995 Ramon Martinez & 1996 Hideo Nomo)
  • A. J. Pierzynski (AL Chicago (2) 2007 Mark Buehrle & 2012 Phillip Humber)
  • Darrell Porter (AL Kansas City 1977 Jim Colborn & NL Saint Louis 1983 Bob Forsch)
  • Walter Robinson (AA Philadelphia 1888 Ed Seward & NL Baltimore 1893 Bill Hawke)
  • Ivan Rodriguez (AL Texas 1994 Kenny Rogers & AL Detroit 2007 Justin Verlander)
  • Buddy Rosar (AL Philadelphia (2) 1945 Dick Fowler & 1947 Bill McCahan)
  • Johnny Roseboro (NL Los Angeles (2) 1962 Sandy Koufax & 1963 Sandy Koufax)
  • Jack Rowe (NL Buffalo (2) 1880 Pud Galvin & 1884 Pud Galvin)
  • Mike Scioscia (NL Los Angeles (2) 1990 Fernando Valenzuela & 1992 Kevin Gross)
  • Hank Severeid (AL Saint Louis (2) 1917 Erine Koob & 1917 Bob Groom)
  • Ted Simmons (NL Saint Louis (2) 1971 Bob Gibson & 1978 Bob Forsch)
  • Terry Steinbach (AL Oakland 1990 Dave Stewart & AL Minnesota 1999 Eric Milton)
  • Dan Sullivan (AA Louisville (2) 1882 Tony Mullane & 1882 Guy Hecker)
  • Gene Tenace (AL Oakland (2) 1970 Vida Blue & 1975 (Caught 6 Innings, Vida Blue (5 IP) & Glenn Abbott (1 IP))
  • Bob Tillman (AL Boston (2) 1962 Earl Wilson & 1965 Dave Morehead)
  • Gus Triandos (AL Baltimore 1958 Hoyt Wilhelm & NL Philadelphia 1964 Jim Bunning)
  • Art Wilson (NL New York 1912 Jeff Tesreau & FL Chicago 1915 Claude Hendrix)
  • Chief Zimmer (NL Cleveland 1897 Cy Young & NL Philadelphia 1903 Chick Fraser)
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18 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Cano has to be on the all-time over paid list of players.

I'm not sure I agree with that ... he has a career .302 average -- look at those stats ... better than you might think

 https://baseballsavant.mlb.com/savant-player/robinson-cano-429664?stats=career-r-hitting-mlb

Now, if you throw in the PED suspensions? Yes, not great. But does the team pay those salaries in a suspension? 

Really if you look at it his 2020 was still strong. He had one down season with the Mets and a poor start this year. 

 

In regards to signing him? I mean ... he's probably not much better than a Harrison at this point in his career, and probably less volatility now. You could convince me, but not sure where he fits. 

 

What I'd love to see is:

Sox trade for Eleiser Hernandez - give up Sheets or Burger type. Maybe a lower end prospect tied to them. Marlins have Meyer and a few others knocking at the door and Hernandez is disposable for them. Burger would be a nice fit for that team. Though him and Sheets are kind of just repeats of the Brian Anderson, Garret Cooper, Aguilar type mold. Nonetheless think it'd be a good trade. 

Sox release Keuchel. I'd say slot him into long relief for mop up roll as an option as well. It's a sunk cost. He doesn't seem to fit in the clubhouse (at least on some of his comments ... that's kind of conjecture). 

By late May your rotation is: Giolito, Cease, Lynn, Kopech, Eleiser with Cueto/Keuchel/VV as your spot/mop up guy. 

 

In regards to Cano someone would have present to me the roster gymnastics and who'd have to get cut to make the spot ... he's taking whos spot? Sheets I guess?? He could backup Abreu alongside Vaugh and Yaz. Be the split/hot bat spot at 2b ... ? I don't love or hate it. Seems net neutral. 

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another one to consider.. willie calhoun

don't think it's really necessary ... but he's had flashes and with eloy out for 6+ weeks might be an option? 

I'd rather have Engel/Robert/Pollock roaming the OF with Vaughn filling in at 1b/dh/lf/rf & playing 6 games a week, so not sure there's really a place for calhoun ... but if the price is free it's not that hard to take a chance. 

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