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22 hours ago, A-Train to 35th said:

I believe JR and Hahn were blamed for Vaughn's hip pointer when everyone thought he was done for the year because the Sox were too cheap to sign Conforto and he was playing out of position.  The blame will never stop.

No Jerry it won't.

 

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50 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

The way we handled him turned him into a full time reliever lol

There was really no other way to handle him, innings wise.

Unless you only wanted him to pitch part of a season.

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5 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

If our plan out of the draft was to only pitch him 50-60 innings his first year, then he shouldn't have been picked.

 

I agree but thats a separate discussion. That doesn't mean the way they handled him made him a reliever. 

He only pitched 13 innings his last year of college. There was no way he could have been handled differently "to stretch him out." It was just going to take longer to build him up.

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22 minutes ago, ptatc said:

I agree but thats a separate discussion. That doesn't mean the way they handled him made him a reliever. 

He only pitched 13 innings his last year of college. There was no way he could have been handled differently "to stretch him out." It was just going to take longer to build him up.

Pitching him only 60 innings in the majors made him a lifetime reliever.  His clock started (only has 6 years).  Year 2, only 80 innings Year 3 120 innings.  Year 4 160 innings.  We now have two years of a full time starter with no restrictions.  This was best case scenario with no injuries (unlikely).  Clearly wasn't likely, thus the way we handled him (60 innings in the majors, thus starting his clock) made him a full time reliever.  If this was the plan.. It was stupid.  Pitching him 60 (if that was his limit), in the minors is a far different scenario.

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11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said:

Pitching him only 60 innings in the majors made him a lifetime reliever.  His clock started (only has 6 years).  Year 2, only 80 innings Year 3 120 innings.  Year 4 160 innings.  We now have two years of a full time starter with no restrictions.  This was best case scenario with no injuries (unlikely).  Clearly wasn't likely, thus the way we handled him (60 innings in the majors, thus starting his clock) made him a full time reliever.  If this was the plan.. It was stupid.  Pitching him 60 (if that was his limit), in the minors is a far different scenario.

Why couldn't he be a full time starter in your scenario in the majors? He would be a full time starter by year 4.

His limit was 50-60 with never being a full time starter college and only 13 innings in the COVID year with an injury. 

If your point is that you only wanted to see him in the majors as a starter and wanted gim to work as a reliever and part time starter in the majors that's fine. He would be in the majors in 2 more years or so.

But he would would have followed the exact same innings and plan either way.

So what is of more benefit to the White Sox and his development? Following that plan while helping the White Sox win now or having him as a fulltime starter in 2024 and no help now?

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1 hour ago, DirtySox said:

Kinda cool that he's going to be around the team when he can. Unsure if that's standard procedure.

Once a month isn't uncommon. Check in with the trainers for progress. 

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