FoxForce2 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Do the Sox maintain a staff or other personnel at Camelback through the year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 9 minutes ago, FoxForce2 said: Do the Sox maintain a staff or other personnel at Camelback through the year? Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, EloyJenkins said: See you for the playoff push in 2023 Garrett. He'll be ready near the beginning of the year. Although they've been really conservative lately so maybe in the middle of the season. Edited April 2, 2022 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 6 minutes ago, ptatc said: He'll be ready near the beginning of the year. Although they've been really conservative lately so maybe in the middle of the season. Random question for ya ptatc. If a player was using HGH for a period of time during recovery from something like TJS, would it reduce the recovery time noticeably? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 Come back stronger Crochet! Hopefully we'll see him back to his old self (and by old self I mean 2020 version of him) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) 28 minutes ago, ron883 said: Random question for ya ptatc. If a player was using HGH for a period of time during recovery from something like TJS, would it reduce the recovery time noticeably? Yes it will. Many have used this excuse in the nfl back in the day. Although it would probably need to be about 8 -12 weeks during the healing process. Edited April 2, 2022 by ptatc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, ptatc said: Yes it will. Many have used this excuse in the nfl back in the day. Although it would probably need to be about 8 -12 weeks during the healing process. Man, I wished they allowed it when recovering from injuries such as TJS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 11 minutes ago, ron883 said: Man, I wished they allowed it when recovering from injuries such as TJS. The side effects wouldn't be worth it. It's why its banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty22hotty Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, ptatc said: The side effects wouldn't be worth it. It's why its banned. shouldn't confuse HGH replacement therapy and peptides for stimulating HGH production (GHRH). while both are banned they're two different ballgames... GHRH has near 0 side effects. but he's definitely going to be on BPC-157 during recovery. while thymosin beta 4 is banned in the mlb, bpc-157 is only WADA banned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 2, 2022 Share Posted April 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, scotty22hotty said: shouldn't confuse HGH replacement therapy and peptides for stimulating HGH production (GHRH). while both are banned they're two different ballgames... GHRH has near 0 side effects. but he's definitely going to be on BPC-157 during recovery. while thymosin beta 4 is banned in the mlb, bpc-157 is only WADA banned. I would high doubt they will give him bpc-157. The PRP and STEM cells during the reconstruction are more direct and effective. They aren't going to risk unproven substances for a routine procedure when there are proven substances available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxForce2 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 4 hours ago, ptatc said: Yes. The point being, Crochet will be working with and going through Sox authorized evaluation and methodologies WRT rehab. Not as if he's dangling out on an island regarding his comeback. The way some posters have pictured this, it's as if the guy is somehow relegated to a loose cannon status that will only be worked into the system when he checks into Chicago and gets looked at by the immediate big-league medical staff. Which would obviously be a preposterous way of doing business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, FoxForce2 said: The point being, Crochet will be working with and going through Sox authorized evaluation and methodologies WRT rehab. Not as if he's dangling out on an island regarding his comeback. The way some posters have pictured this, it's as if the guy is somehow relegated to a loose cannon status that will only be worked into the system when he checks into Chicago and gets looked at by the immediate big-league medical staff. Which would obviously be a preposterous way of doing business. They will have some people there although depending on where he is they may have a local PT working with him during the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Hopefully they groom him for the rotation, post recovery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Hopefully they groom him for the rotation, post recovery. Zero chance of that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Zero chance of that happening. Agreed. He doesn't have the innings base to ever start now. They should try to lock him up long-term for reliever money at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 16 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Zero chance of that happening. Why not? Plenty of pitchers come back to start, and do it well. They can build the innings up post-surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 35 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Agreed. He doesn't have the innings base to ever start now. They should try to lock him up long-term for reliever money at this point. It's going to be tough now. He is probably looking at a minimum of 3 years to get to dtarter innings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 hour ago, GreenSox said: Why not? Plenty of pitchers come back to start, and do it well. They can build the innings up post-surgery. Because he has never pitched starters innings in pros or in college. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Vaughn for Keller is a horrible proposal. Keller has two pitches. Fastball is flat and has horrible command of it. Talk about future role will be in the bullpen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Trading young position player prospects for young pitching prospects would could go wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, bmags said: Trading young position player prospects for young pitching prospects would could go wrong It could. But as we see now, you can never have enough pitching. The problem is they are counting on Vaughn during a world series run so he may not be the one to trade unless they have confidence in Sheets or Burger to contribute now. You have to trade talent to get talent. Just depends on how it all fits together and the situation of the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I would trade Vaughn straight up for a pitcher with at least 2 years of control and projecting at least 3.0 WAR this year. I would trade Vaughn for a pitcher with 1 year of control and projecting at least 3.0 WAR <OR> at least 2 years of control projecting at least 2.0 WAR this year if we also got mid level pitching prospect in addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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