SoCalChiSox Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 23 minutes ago, Quin said: But would that require taking one of the nightmare contracts Hosmers value is -50m. Paddock is about 17m. SD would have to throw in alot of money and prolly add another good piece too to balance it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 8 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Hosmers value is -50m. Paddock is about 17m. SD would have to throw in alot of money and prolly add another good piece too to balance it out. According to Baseball Trade Values (100% accurate at all times), Keuchel for Hosmer, Paddack and Gore is a major overpay for the Sox. That contract is toooooooxic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 20 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The White Sox won't agree to take $30 million and pay Hosmer $30 million when they already have five 1B/DH types on the roster. Myers is a nonstarter with Pollock. But he's left handed at least, lol. he is not left handed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 21 minutes ago, bmags said: I'd still take a flyer on Folty on aminor league deal. His fb velo went up to 94 mph last year. He was dogshit, but his velo was closer to back. And pitchers are weird, he's likely awful. But yeah gonna be rough when they add Trevor Bauer. I'd love Bauer lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 7 minutes ago, Quin said: According to Baseball Trade Values (100% accurate at all times), Keuchel for Hosmer, Paddack and Gore is a major overpay for the Sox. That contract is toooooooxic. Fuck it. I'd do it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Cueto is dog shit. Rosenthal I'd be on board with He would easily come in and be our number 4, so no he is not dog shit. In fact, given our budget and need, both Rosenthal and Cueto are perfect fits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Quintana only cost the Pirates $2M . He could be likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 33 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: How much would the Dodgers have to pay as a subsidy for Sox fans to countenance that? I bet the number for tolerating Bauer would have ticked up considerably in the last 7-10 days. Might as well add Matt Harvey for more unimpeachable character guys. I’m not touching Bauer even if he was free. I get he wasn’t convicted of anything, but he’s got enough of a track record of general douchiness that I don’t want him in our clubhouse. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted April 4, 2022 Author Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Chris Paddack What would he cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Since we're listing SPs that make up the dregs, how about Julio Teheran? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Polar Bear said: He would easily come in and be our number 4, so no he is not dog shit. In fact, given our budget and need, both Rosenthal and Cueto are perfect fits no he would not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 14 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Quintana only cost the Pirates $2M . He could be likely. That would be fine for 2m. He's prolly more valuable to PIT tho at that salary. Adolfo for Q? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 5 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: That would be fine for 2m. He's prolly more valuable to PIT tho at that salary. Adolfo for Q? I'd rather just try to sneak Adolfo through. Sign any old scrub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd rather just try to sneak Adolfo through. Sign any old scrub Pittsburgh will take him if they try to do that or someone else. Maybe giving the Pirates the 1st crack at him is worth Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lillian Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 (edited) The Sox will likely win the division, even with what they have. The issue is depth to the front end of the rotation, to ensure that they have the starters needed in the Post Season. This roster has 4 guys who would likely be good enough to compete in the playoffs; Giolito, Lynn, Cease and Kopech. Lynn's health is critical and not very reliable, at this point. Kopech has the obstacle of needing to manage his work load. Therefore, adding the kinds of arms suggested, so far, only adds regular season depth, of which I am in favor. However, none of the names mentioned would be plausible candidates in the playoffs. Unfortunately, it appears that Hahn is going to have to part with someone, in order to land a #2, or #3 starter. Do any of you have a realistic suggestion to achieve that goal? Please make some feasible trade suggestions. Edited April 4, 2022 by Lillian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 31 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Hosmers value is -50m. Paddock is about 17m. SD would have to throw in alot of money and prolly add another good piece too to balance it out. The Padres were willing to eat ~$30M of Hosmer’s contract, which would put his cash salary for us around $7.5M per year for the next four years. Paddock makes $2.3M this year. We could squeeze both in this year for roughly the same price as Manaea. Still not sure I’d do that deal though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Lillian said: The Sox will likely win the division, even with what they have. The issue is depth to the front end of the rotation, to ensure that they have the starters needed in the Post Season. This roster has 4 guys who would likely be good enough to compete in the playoffs; Giolito, Lynn, Cease and Kopech. Lynn's health is critical and not very reliable, at this point. Kopech has the obstacle of needing to manage his work load. Therefore, adding the kinds of arms suggested, so far, only adds regular season depth. None of the names mentioned would be plausible candidates in the playoffs. Unfortunately, it appears that Hahn is going to have to part with someone, in order to land a #2, or #3 starter. Do any of you have a realistic suggestion to achieve that goal? Please make some feasible trade suggestions. That’s why I feel all this “FO failure” & “emergency” talk is a bit weak. Let’s let the guys in the minors establish some value and get the right piece in the summer. Win the World Series= goal #1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GIDP Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The Padres were willing to eat ~$30M of Hosmer’s contract, which would put his cash salary for us around $7.5M per year for the next four years. Paddock makes $2.3M this year. We could squeeze both in this year for roughly the same price as Manaea. Still not sure I’d do that deal though. Paddack is a two-pitch pitcher (fastball, changeup.) No viable third pitch is why he's struggling. He needs to be converted to a reliever if he wants to stay in baseball. He's the Padres' version of Reynaldo. No way in hell are we taking on a bad contract for a reliever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 44 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: What would he cost? I have no idea but hopefully AJ doesn't want to get creative because Hahn will most likely be out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 36 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd rather just try to sneak Adolfo through. Sign any old scrub I think he makes the OD roster. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, GIDP said: Paddack is a two-pitch pitcher (fastball, changeup.) No viable third pitch is why he's struggling. He needs to be converted to a reliever if he wants to stay in baseball. He's the Padres' version of Reynaldo. No way in hell are we taking on a bad contract for a reliever. That’s crazy, pitchers develop pitches suddenly all the time 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 I'd easily take a flyer on Cueto, and give him a shot, if the price was right. Folks that think you're going to find a legit 2/3 as a FA, at this point in the year, are sorely mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 The Twins were looking at Cueto and signed Archer instead. That either means you should want Cueto cause Minnesota's track record of picking up FA SPs has been terrible recently or Cueto looked so bad that Minnesota didn't even want him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 Johnny Cueto (36, 2.0) Brett Anderson (34, 1.5) Matt Harvey (33, 1.4) J.A. Happ (39, 1.1) Trevor Cahill (33, 0.9) Tommy Milone (35, 0.6) Mike Fiers (37, 0.3) José Ureña (30, 0.3) Cole Hamels (38, 0.1) Ervin Santana (39, 0.1) Scott Kazmir (38, -0.2) Jake Arrieta (36, -0.2) Tanner Roark (35, -0.7) Julio Teheran (31, -0.9) Mike Foltynewicz (30, -1.1) Félix Hernández (36, N/A) Those are your options, so yeah..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted April 4, 2022 Share Posted April 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: no he would not. Gio - 1 Kopech - 2 Cease, can flip flop Kopech and Cease if you want - 3 DK - 4 (5.23 FIP and 0.6 WAR in 2021) ReyLo - 5 (4.19 FIP ans 0.7 WAR in 2021) So where would Cueto be slotting in at with his 4.05 FIP and 1.5 WAR in 2021........ Oh that's right 4th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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