bmags Posted April 3, 2022 Author Share Posted April 3, 2022 Googles “Baltimore orioles starting pitchers not named John means” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, The Beast said: There’s no window if they don’t replace Rodon with a starter and people keep getting hurt. Meanwhile players age and people leave. This is why if they were short on prospects I thought they had to go out and spend on areas of weakness in free agency. But if they traded Vaughn who would they need to get back with Montas for Soxtalk to feel good about the trade? Right but if Oakland wants Vaughn, who do the Sox need to get back so that they get a good enough return? You're firstly making a mistake thinking Hahn would get something back, but I'll go with Laureano since they can't trust Engel to stay healthy. (And yes, he's suspended for roughly the first month.) Which matches the Joe Kelly deal. Edited April 3, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Vaughn has a more ascertainable value than Burger and esp. Sheets. Extracting that value in a trade is difficult, however. Montas sure isn't it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, bmags said: Googles “Baltimore orioles starting pitchers not named John means” https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/depth-charts/orioles Jordan Lyles, haha... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Just a thought but would the Pirates be interested in a Vaughn for Keller swap? Just spitballing here. Edited April 3, 2022 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 I hate the fucking Padres 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Oakland doesn't have anyone worth Vaughn. If Luis Castillo wasn't injured, that's a guy I'd trade Vaughn for. Fine. What player that addresses a need is Vaughn worth? 14 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: You're firstly making a mistake thinking Hahn would get something back, but I'll go with Laureano since they can't trust Engel to stay healthy. (And yes, he's suspended for roughly the first month.) Which matches the Joe Kelly deal. At least you have thought about a name. 13 minutes ago, GreenSox said: Vaughn has a more ascertainable value than Burger and esp. Sheets. Extracting that value in a trade is difficult, however. Montas sure isn't it. Fair enough. Then who is it? I really don’t get the hard on for a player rushed up who hits the long ball and has no official position. Or is it that Vaughn is the tradeable piece worth a damn or is it that Vaughn will replace Abreu? Edited April 3, 2022 by The Beast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Just a thought but would the Pirates be interested in a Vaughn for Keller swap? Just spitballing here. 7-17, 6.17 ERA last year. Would fit in well with Velasquez. Maybe we can get Jon Adkins, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 This board has become full on insufferable. The White Sox not having a window beyond 2023 is 1 of the dumber things typed on the internet today 8 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, caulfield12 said: 7-17, 6.17 ERA last year. Would fit in well with Velasquez. Maybe we can get Jon Adkins, too. Also Jesus Luzardo is another target. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, The Beast said: Fine. What player that addresses a need is Vaughn worth? At least you have thought about a name. Then who is it? I really don’t get the hard on for a player rushed up who hits the long ball and has no official position. Or is it that Vaughn is the tradeable piece worth a damn or is it that Vaughn will replace Abreu? The fact that he was drafted so high to be a reliable 25-30+ homer, doubles hitting machine for the next decade at 1B. Generational bat, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Just a thought but would the Pirates be interested in a Vaughn for Keller swap? Just spitballing here. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Jack Parkman said: Also Jesus Luzardo is another target. We would be better off with just Jesus, Sermon on the Mount high leverage reliever. Make him a lefty, as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO People forget that Vaughn hit .235 with a 68 wRC+ against RHP last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: This board has become full on insufferable. The White Sox not having a window beyond 2023 is 1 of the dumber things typed on the internet today Let it be noted that I said 2024 is the last year. And KC only had two years, total, but boy they were good ones. Just one Bumgarner super human effort away from two consecutive World Series titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, The Beast said: There’s no window if they don’t replace Rodon with a starter and people keep getting hurt. Meanwhile players age and people leave. This is why if they were short on prospects I thought they had to go out and spend on areas of weakness in free agency. But if they traded Vaughn who would they need to get back with Montas for Soxtalk to feel good about the trade? Right but if Oakland wants Vaughn, who do the Sox need to get back so that they get a good enough return? Don't ask me but if Vaughn is traded there will be a huge outcry. Guaranteed. Edited April 3, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Jack Parkman said: People forget that Vaughn hit .235 with a 68 wRC+ against RHP last year. Uh-oh. Now you've done it. World War III at Soxtalk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Jack Parkman said: People forget that Vaughn hit .235 with a 68 wRC+ against RHP last year. On Sundays, after 2:35, when it is partially overcast. He was a rookie. There is a slight possibility he will improve. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Uh-oh. Now you've done it. World War III at Soxtalk. If Vaughn can get better, why couldn't Keller or Luzardo? They were all rookies last year. Edited April 3, 2022 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: This board has become full on insufferable. The White Sox not having a window beyond 2023 is 1 of the dumber things typed on the internet today Yet, here you are ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) IM GONNA RUIN ALL OF YOU ****ERS AND END THIS ONCE AND FOR ALL SO COVER YOUR GOD*** EYES IF YOU KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR YOU AND RUN FOR YOUR ****ING LIVES!!!! HELL FIRE AND ACID RAIN IS ABOUT TO POUR!!!!!!! Edited April 3, 2022 by hi8is 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 Just now, Tnetennba said: Yet, here you are ? Like watching NASCAR. I only watch for the wrecks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: On Sundays, after 2:35, when it is partially overcast. He was a rookie. There is a slight possibility he will improve. 3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: If Vaughn can get better, why couldn't Keller or Luzardo? They were all rookies last year. Keller and Luzardo have + stuff so why is Vaughn the only player capable of improving? What makes Vaughn a stud hitter in the making but Keller/Luzardo are doomed to be eternal gascans? Edited April 3, 2022 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 1 minute ago, ptatc said: On Sundays, after 2:35, when it is partially overcast. He was a rookie. There is a slight possibility he will improve. It would help if we would actually play him in the position where he belongs, instead of converting him to Alex Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 FUCK THE PADRES 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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