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Lillian Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:02 PM, SoxBlanco said: I think the plan is to just wait until the deadline now. See what the team looks like in July and see what other players (pitchers) might be available. Some of our younger prospects might have increased their value a little bit, too. Expand Isn't that risky? Hahn would appear to be desperate, if the team were already dealing with a hobbled, thin starting staff. Claiming to merely be trying to add depth is better than desperately trying to find a trading partner, because you don't have anyone who is available to provide quality innings. So far, all of the starters are still healthy, with the exception of Lynn, about whose status we don't yet know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:10 PM, Heads22 said: Expand So what can we trade Burger to SD for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:11 PM, Lillian said: Isn't that risky? Hahn would appear to be desperate, if the team were already dealing with a hobbled, thin starting staff. Claiming to merely be trying to add depth is better than desperately trying to find a trading partner, because you don't have anyone who is available to provide quality innings. So far, all of the starters are still healthy, with the exception of Lynn, about whose status we don't yet know. Expand Of course it is. But it's also possible the hold a decent division lead early and can "wait" to acquire a starter. But it's all a risk. Or you don't have to worry about any of this and just use money to sign whoever you want...but that ship has unfortunately sailed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:10 PM, Heads22 said: Expand Sox are at least trying, but getting burned by having a crap farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGetzUs Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:10 PM, Heads22 said: Expand The farm system is going to kill us from being able to acquire a significant piece I feel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 3:54 PM, TheFutureIsNear said: This board has become full on insufferable. The White Sox not having a window beyond 2023 is 1 of the dumber things typed on the internet today Expand The board is like a contest between Caufield and Jack to see who can be the biggest shit poster. 3 4 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:06 PM, Chicago White Sox said: That may be the plan, but it’s a huge risk to go with what got now. I really hope Hahn has an ace up his sleeve here. Expand Hard to think he has an ace up his sleeve when the Sox are pretty close to the CBT since the Kimbrel contract was a wash with the Pollock contract. They are out of Aces in the deck they are playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:22 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Hard to think he has an ace up his sleeve when the Sox are pretty close to the CBT since the Kimbrel contract was a wash with the Pollock contract. They are out of Aces in the deck they are playing. Expand Maybe they shouldn’t have wasted $8 million on Josh Harrison and Vince Velasquez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:23 PM, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Maybe they shouldn’t have wasted $8 million on Josh Harrison and Vince Velasquez. Expand I'd rather have Alex Cobb for $10 million this year than those 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:22 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Hard to think he has an ace up his sleeve when the Sox are pretty close to the CBT since the Kimbrel contract was a wash with the Pollock contract. They are out of Aces in the deck they are playing. Expand I think we have close to $20M in CBT space, I think the bigger concern is cash payroll, but we did open up some with the Kimbrel trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:24 PM, Chicago White Sox said: I think we have close to $20M in CBT space, I think the bigger concern is cash payroll, but we did open up some with the Kimbrel trade. Expand Didn't it come to just about $1M gained in the Kimbrel deal ? Or if you are talking about payroll cash then more since the buyout may not count against payroll ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:27 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Didn't it come to just about $1M gained in the Kimbrel deal ? Or if you are talking about payroll cash then more since the buyout may not count against payroll ? Expand I think CBT wise it was kimbrel for 16 but Pollock for 7.5. Pollock has 10 this year and a 5 buyout next year so his is spread out over 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:34 PM, ptatc said: I think CBT wise it was kimbrel for 16 but Pollock for 7.5. Pollock has 10 this year and a 5 buyout next year so his is spread out over 2. Expand Wasn't there a $3M signing bonus too ? I mean I read the whole conversations on it but I never got a clear understanding of what goes under the CBT and what goes under payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) On 4/3/2022 at 6:34 PM, ptatc said: I think CBT wise it was kimbrel for 16 but Pollock for 7.5. Pollock has 10 this year and a 5 buyout next year so his is spread out over 2. Expand Nah. Pollock CBT number is $12m. Edited April 3, 2022 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:36 PM, ChiSox59 said: Nah. Pollack CBT number is $12m. Expand So they gained 4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:27 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Didn't it come to just about $1M gained in the Kimbrel deal ? Or if you are talking about payroll cash then more since the buyout may not count against payroll ? Expand Guaranteed money is only $1M different, but the CBT and cash impact is quite bit less for this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 5:54 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Why would the sox trade Vaughn for mitch Keller? If the Sox were gonna target a pirates pitcher, a cheap shrewd move would be inquiring about JT Brubaker. Expand Because they need a controllable SP more than a controllable 1B/DH. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) On 4/3/2022 at 6:37 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Guaranteed money is only $1M different, but the CBT and cash impact is quite bit less for this year. Expand Contract Notes for Pollock from Spotrac Contract Notes: 2022 opt out available ($5M buyout), with 1,000 plate appearances across 2020-2021, or 1,450 plate appearances across 2019-2021 (not earned) 2023 Player Option includes a $5M buyout 2023 Option escalates $1M each for 400,450,500,550,600 Plate Appearances in 2022 2023 option increases $1M per point based on finish in 2019-22 MVP voting, with 5 points for first place, 3 points for second-fifth place, and 1 point for sixth-10th place Edited April 3, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:37 PM, ptatc said: So they gained 4? Expand Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:37 PM, ptatc said: So they gained 4? Expand $4M in Luxury tax and $3M in Payroll Salary according to Spotrac . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:16 PM, HahnsKiddieTable said: The farm system is going to kill us from being able to acquire a significant piece I feel Expand That might change quite a bit by July. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rey21 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 (edited) Hopefully the Sox keep loading up on high schoolers in the upcoming draft and sign younger talent during IFA. Edited April 3, 2022 by Rey21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:23 PM, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Maybe they shouldn’t have wasted $8 million on Josh Harrison and Vince Velasquez. Expand Hindsight is undefeated. Obviously by the Pollack move and being close on Manaea here at the end, the Sox had a plan in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted April 3, 2022 Share Posted April 3, 2022 On 4/3/2022 at 6:23 PM, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Maybe they shouldn’t have wasted $8 million on Josh Harrison and Vince Velasquez. Expand Yep, the Manaea pursuit may have ended when they essentially only saved a million dollars on the Kimbrel trade. Reasonable chance the 10 million coming back was too much regardless of the asking price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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