chitownsportsfan Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) Let's get this one going. The man failed to deliver in the playoffs and made some head scratching decisions tactically to say the least. That said, the team seems to love him and players around the league take notice. Is he an above replacement level manager? I don't fucking know man but I do know we'll discuss it. Here's an interesting article to get us started. Quote Harrison fits right in. “You could tell they have fun,” Harrison said of playing against the White Sox last season. “I mean, I’m going to be me wherever I go, but I know me being me here definitely feels like I’m at home.” The White Sox culture is a team-wide thing, and despite the fears that he’d snuff it out, Tony La Russa has helped it flourish, the most repeated compliment he received from his players last season being that he allowed them to be themselves. Anderson was the focal point of all those fan concerns about La Russa, and the shortstop even admitted to not being on board with the hire initially. But the two worked well together, La Russa realizing what a critical element Anderson was to the team’s success and Anderson appreciating La Russa’s willingness to step into the already established culture rather than dictate a new one. Expand Well, how about Harrison hits the walkoff to send the Sox to the ALCS? Then I'll give the "good vibes" guy credit again. Link feature does not seem to be working, hmm. https://www.allchgo.com/2022/04/06/how-josh-harrison-helped-tim-anderson-change-the-game-long-before-joining-white-sox/ Edited April 6, 2022 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeC Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 I have nothing to contribute at this time but look forward to grabbing some popcorn and reading this thread regularly. Thank you. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Its so weird... because i hate Tony LaRussa with a passion...but the team really does rally around him and say all the right things. Its either total PR Bullshit or he has changed his philosophy and learned to be a tolerable ass hat. But...it aint no thing without that ring. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 Managerial in-game decisions (lineups, pitching changes, bunting, stealing, etc.) are overrated. Not saying they don’t matter, but they don’t matter nearly to the degree you would think from reading this message board. Oh, and it was the pitching staff who failed to deliver in the playoffs last year. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 6, 2022 Share Posted April 6, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 11:29 PM, SoxBlanco said: Managerial in-game decisions (lineups, pitching changes, bunting, stealing, etc.) are overrated. Not saying they don’t matter, but they don’t matter nearly to the degree you would think from reading this message board. Oh, and it was the pitching staff who failed to deliver in the playoffs last year. Expand How about shifting vs not shifting? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 6, 2022 Author Share Posted April 6, 2022 (edited) On 4/6/2022 at 11:18 PM, EloyJenkins said: Its so weird... because i hate Tony LaRussa with a passion...but the team really does rally around him and say all the right things. Its either total PR Bullshit or he has changed his philosophy and learned to be a tolerable ass hat. But...it aint no thing without that ring. Expand Thing is I figured he'd be horrible on the "chemistry shit" and good on the "don't do dumb shit in game" stuff. A complete 180 so far. @fathomthat sounds like an org problem to me more than the manager. Edited April 6, 2022 by chitownsportsfan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 11:18 PM, EloyJenkins said: Its so weird... because i hate Tony LaRussa with a passion...but the team really does rally around him and say all the right things. Its either total PR Bullshit or he has changed his philosophy and learned to be a tolerable ass hat. But...it aint no thing without that ring. Expand I can't see that players would want to knock their manager just as the season begins. I don't know what the real truth is, but what is the incentive for a player or anyone to pop off just when a season with high expectations is about to begin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Can't wait for us to rest guys up for the playoffs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 11:35 PM, fathom said: How about shifting vs not shifting? Expand That's more the stats department than anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:16 AM, ptatc said: That's more the stats department than anything. Expand Is that still Dave Duncan’s son? A guy who clearly has complete qualifications and was not a nepotism hire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:19 AM, Balta1701 said: Is that still Dave Duncan’s son? A guy who clearly has complete qualifications and was not a nepotism hire? Expand I have no idea who is in that department. My point is that it isn't a TLR decision in isolation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:03 AM, NWINFan said: I can't see that players would want to knock their manager just as the season begins. I don't know what the real truth is, but what is the incentive for a player or anyone to pop off just when a season with high expectations is about to begin? Expand Not only is there none, but even if someone really hates him in private, the Chicago media probably wouldn’t report it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 He was brought in to win in the playoffs. Until he does so with this team, he is a failure. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:21 AM, ptatc said: I have no idea who is in that department. My point is that it isn't a TLR decision in isolation. Expand Just a guy hired by TLR as a nepotism hire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:21 AM, Balta1701 said: Not only is there none, but even if someone really hates him in private, the Chicago media probably wouldn’t report it. Expand With all of the ripping if the Sox for hiring him? There were many stories about hiw RH was told to hire him and it was all a JR decision. It would come out if there was a significant issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:22 AM, Balta1701 said: Just a guy hired by TLR as a nepotism hire. Expand So what youre saying is that the White Sox set up the stats department so that they only do what TLR wants them to do and don't actually do any analytics about the other team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:23 AM, ptatc said: With all of the ripping if the Sox for hiring him? There were many stories about hiw RH was told to hire him and it was all a JR decision. It would come out if there was a significant issue. Expand Instead, you’d see a whole bunch of random and weird to the point of creepy comments about how the team needed “energy” from their new arrival, with no one going so far as to call the previous years’ team low energy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:27 AM, ptatc said: So what youre saying is that the White Sox set up the stats department so that they only do what TLR wants them to do and don't actually do any analytics about the other team? Expand They hired the son of his pitching coach in St Louis. Even you can’t get away with telling me that was totally a coincidence. If you are saying their analytical work is bad, you are blaming Tony LaRussa’s handpicked hire to excuse Toby LaRussa’s decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:28 AM, Balta1701 said: Instead, you’d see a whole bunch of random and weird to the point of creepy comments about how the team needed “energy” from their new arrival, with no one going so far as to call the previous years’ team low energy. Expand What does that have to do with the media reporting issues ayers have with the manager? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 Everyone rest their typing fingers and toes. I have a phone call into Mr LaRussa demanding to know his yet unmade decision making l. As soon as he returns my calls I will let you guys all know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/6/2022 at 11:29 PM, SoxBlanco said: Managerial in-game decisions (lineups, pitching changes, bunting, stealing, etc.) are overrated. Not saying they don’t matter, but they don’t matter nearly to the degree you would think from reading this message board. Oh, and it was the pitching staff who failed to deliver in the playoffs last year. Expand Because I’m not going to let this hang…it is amazing how people say it was only the pitchers without paying any attention to how terrible of positions he put them in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:31 AM, Balta1701 said: They hired the son of his pitching coach in St Louis. Even you can’t get away with telling me that was totally a coincidence. If you are saying their analytical work is bad, you are blaming Tony LaRussa’s handpicked hire to excuse Toby LaRussa’s decisions. Expand I'm saying the decisions are not solely based on one person. I'm sure even in the analytics department, Duncan doesn't have the only say and whatever he says goes regardless of any other input. Everyone says TLR is too old school. Well the old school way was for the Manger to manage the players andet the coaches do their work. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 TLR is going to get Manager of the Year. Laugh at me now I don't mind. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:35 AM, Balta1701 said: Because I’m not going to let this hang…it is amazing how people say it was only the pitchers without paying any attention to how terrible of positions he put them in. Expand Again, are you saying that TLR made these decisions while ignoring the suggestions of the pitching coach and bullpen coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 7, 2022 Share Posted April 7, 2022 On 4/7/2022 at 12:35 AM, ptatc said: I'm saying the decisions are not solely based on one person. I'm sure even in the analytics department, Duncan doesn't have the only say and whatever he says goes regardless of any other input. Everyone says TLR is too old school. Well the old school way was for the Manger to manage the players andet the coaches do their work. Expand So you agree that your blaming of the analytics department doesn’t hold water. Roger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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