oldsox Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 5 hours ago, greg775 said: It's scary how many fans on this message board 'hate' or 'don't like' Tony. Outside of this board is the sentiment this ugly regarding the Hall of Fame skipper? I can't imagine tons of Sox fans despise Tony's hiring as much as folks in message board land. Personally I think Tony is fine. Lots of managers do the "rest" thing and sit players way too often. The "rest thing" certainly hasn't helped our injury situation in the Tony era. But I sort of like having Tony at the helm. The man is not a buffoon, folks. His resume suggests excellence, not hyperbole, it just does! I wish people would give TLR a chance til all star break. My problems with baseball managerial decisions involve modern day thinking, more than being frustrated with one manager named LaRussa. Tf anyone here thinks Tony is smart, just check out his record as GM of the Dbacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Just now, oldsox said: Tf anyone here thinks Tony is smart, just check out his record as GM of the Dbacks. Pretty sure it was Dave Stewart, but the point still stands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Just now, caulfield12 said: Pretty sure it was Dave Stewart, but the point still stands. Get ready to be called a racist by the mods. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, oldsox said: Get ready to be called a racist by the mods. Revisiting Dave Stewart’s D-backs Trades April 10th, 2020 at 8:40am CST • By Steve Adams Dave Stewart’s transition from agent to Diamondbacks general manager was both brief and frenetic. Not afraid to make moves that bucked industry trends, Stewart’s regime aggressively moved young talent for veterans, seemingly placed a lower value on draft picks than other clubs and made what proved to be a pair of high-profile missteps on the international market as they set out on a clear win-now path. Sounds familiar? I think they are referring to Yasmany Tomas here. Edited April 23, 2022 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 They traded a top prospect shortstop (Swanson) for an over the hill pitcher who was really bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 6 minutes ago, oldsox said: They traded a top prospect shortstop (Swanson) for an over the hill pitcher who was really bad. Shelby Miller of course a former Cardinal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 There's gotta be some millionaire on here that can bankroll a billboard with a message ripping TLR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Just now, ron883 said: There's gotta be some millionaire on here that can bankroll a billboard with a message ripping TLR Maybe if we crowd sourced it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, ron883 said: There's gotta be some millionaire on here that can bankroll a billboard with a message ripping TLR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spumoni Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 6 hours ago, greg775 said: It's scary how many fans on this message board 'hate' or 'don't like' Tony. Outside of this board is the sentiment this ugly regarding the Hall of Fame skipper? I can't imagine tons of Sox fans despise Tony's hiring as much as folks in message board land. Personally I think Tony is fine. Lots of managers do the "rest" thing and sit players way too often. The "rest thing" certainly hasn't helped our injury situation in the Tony era. But I sort of like having Tony at the helm. The man is not a buffoon, folks. His resume suggests excellence, not hyperbole, it just does! I wish people would give TLR a chance til all star break. My problems with baseball managerial decisions involve modern day thinking, more than being frustrated with one manager named LaRussa. I don't post there but I check it out sometimes and WS Reddit hates TLR just as much as Soxtalk. And some of the older school fans I know that don't (as far as I know) post here do not care for him either. By and large I don't see a large base of support for the guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Line Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 We have a hall of fame manager but we don’t have a hall of fame lineup. Its a very tough situation right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Steve Stone saying Leury isn't worth having on the team. I know he doesn't like Leury, but saying he shouldn't be on the team is pretty harsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 49 minutes ago, ron883 said: There's gotta be some millionaire on here that can bankroll a billboard with a message ripping TLR Well I hate gossip, but I heard there's a guy on Soxtalk willing to give up half his salary to get rid of Larussa....maybe start there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: Steve Stone saying Leury isn't worth having on the team. I know he doesn't like Leury, but saying he shouldn't be on the team is pretty harsh. Wtaf? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Just now, Balta1701 said: Wtaf? It makes me think there's definitely a war within the org about Leury and his spot in the lineup. Steve is definitely plugged in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, chw42 said: Steve Stone saying Leury isn't worth having on the team. I know he doesn't like Leury, but saying he shouldn't be on the team is pretty harsh. Leury has a role on this team. But with dipshit McGee running the show, the only answer to using him properly may be removing him from the roster. Never gonna happen tho after paying him $15M. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 I'm not sure it does anyone any good for Stone to be on twitter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 minute ago, chw42 said: It makes me think there's definitely a war within the org about Leury and his spot in the lineup. Steve is definitely plugged in. Yeah this is just weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 Wonder if Hahn told TLR to play certain guys and the nonsensical lineups were his response. Not trying to do too much tea leaf reading but it definitely feels like something is amiss behind the scenes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Tnetennba said: Wonder if Hahn told TLR to play certain guys and the nonsensical lineups were his response. Not trying to do too much tea leaf reading but it definitely feels like something is amiss behind the scenes. Yeah that’s what it sounds like. Hope they nip it the bud before it gets too out of control. Edited April 23, 2022 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spumoni Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 9 minutes ago, wegner said: I'm not sure it does anyone any good for Stone to be on twitter. Agreed. The guy has good insights but if you follow him on twitter he can honestly come across as a real asshat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 I'm all in on the conspiracy theories. Here are the different theories I've heard so far. 1. Hahn told Tony to quit batting Leury so high in the lineup, so Tony is purposely batting him high in the lineup to stick it to Hahn. 2. Tony is purposely batting Leury high in the lineup to passive aggressively show Hahn that the team needs to make moves and acquire better players. 3. Leury is banging Tony's wife (per Tony's request), and Tony is working the camera/lights. Tony is "batting cleanup", for lack of a better description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 minute ago, ron883 said: I'm all in on the conspiracy theories. Here are the different theories I've heard so far. 1. Hahn told Tony to quit batting Leury so high in the lineup, so Tony is purposely batting him high in the lineup to stick it to Hahn. 2. Tony is purposely batting Leury high in the lineup to passive aggressively show Hahn that the team needs to make moves and acquire better players. 3. Leury is banging Tony's wife (per Tony's request), and Tony is working the camera/lights. Tony is "batting cleanup", for lack of a better description. Don't forget the whole If you don't believe in the guys we have, you're not a real fan thing TLR said. Then Hahn traded for Haseley and Pollock on the following days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) You can tell that something is going on behind the scenes. TLR is retaliating by batting Leury high up in the order and not pinch hitting Grandal in the 9th. Hahn probably wants certain players to play and in certain situations but TLR is not having it. Edited April 23, 2022 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 1 minute ago, ron883 said: I'm all in on the conspiracy theories. Here are the different theories I've heard so far. 1. Hahn told Tony to quit batting Leury so high in the lineup, so Tony is purposely batting him high in the lineup to stick it to Hahn. 2. Tony is purposely batting Leury high in the lineup to passive aggressively show Hahn that the team needs to make moves and acquire better players. 3. Leury is banging Tony's wife (per Tony's request), and Tony is working the camera/lights. Tony is "batting cleanup", for lack of a better description. 4. Tony found human fecal matter on his side of the bed....he took that as some sort of warning from Garcia and now he does whatever Leury wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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