michelangelosmonkey Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 8 minutes ago, GREEDY said: I am a Keuchel bull but there are very few scenarios where the club will be excited to be on the hook for 20 million next year. I don't want to bury him. But I don't want to have an awkward storyline down the stretch if he's been good but not great (which I think is possible). In that scenario you won't want to pay him 20 million next year, but you also won't want the BS that will come with manipulating his innings. I saw the weather report, knew it was Keuchel's day and realized it wouldn't be a bad thing for him to miss his start. That isn't "Soxtalk-ish". Sorry I misunderstood your intent. I really don't think Kuechel hitting his 160 inning vesting is a concern with the Sox bullpen...even if he is REALLY good I think the Sox keep him as a 5 inning pitcher and with 30 starts he doesn't make the 160 inning mark. But let's be fanciful...and he regains his control and he is very good this year...wouldn't there be a scenario at 140 innings where they restructure his contract and turn it into a three year $30 million thing? Mark Buehrle as a fifth starter for the next three years would be a nice option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, michelangelosmonkey said: Sorry I misunderstood your intent. I really don't think Kuechel hitting his 160 inning vesting is a concern with the Sox bullpen...even if he is REALLY good I think the Sox keep him as a 5 inning pitcher and with 30 starts he doesn't make the 160 inning mark. But let's be fanciful...and he regains his control and he is very good this year...wouldn't there be a scenario at 140 innings where they restructure his contract and turn it into a three year $30 million thing? Mark Buehrle as a fifth starter for the next three years would be a nice option. No, there is no scenario where that happens. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Buehrle>Wood said: It's my favorite subset of soxtalk Lol for sure. Don’t forget the Holiday Inn Express doctors googling body parts to completely waste everybody’s time while we wait for ptac to comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: No, there is no scenario where that happens. Agreed. He has to be totally off the books after this year rain or shine. JR isnt going to pay a penny of tax and with rising arbitration salaries, we need to free up more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: Hoping they play tonight. Wiiiiide open tonight. Not so much tomorrow night. I hope so also. The weather just might make Ray a little less awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I feel like the compressed schedule is going to lead to fans being put through the wringer on games like tonight, trying to fit them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bmags said: I feel like the compressed schedule is going to lead to fans being put through the wringer on games like tonight, trying to fit them in. Next year should be interesting playing every team. They’ll wait out a lot more games since there’s more one and done trips. Maybe they’ll get a window tonight. We’ll see. Edited April 13, 2022 by flavum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I think they can get 5 innings in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 3 hours ago, ChiSox59 said: This seems like something we shouldn't worry about until August. Chances are remote Keuchel gets to 160 innings. Chances are much better he's either not in the rotation or not on the roster come august 1. Even if he is on pace to get to 160 come trade deadline season, just acquire a pitcher and bump him from the rotation. Replacing a pitcher who isn't very good isn't grounds for a grievance. With as cheap as the Sox can be, they aren't paying Keuchel $20M next year to be a gas can. I'm worried that Keuchel wins the Cy Young and we have to pay him a lot of money. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, pcq said: I'm worried that Keuchel wins the Cy Young and we have to pay him a lot of money. What are the current Vegas odds on that one? 2024 Vesting Option vests with 320 IP across 2021-2022, including 160 IP in 2022 So he simply needs to pitch 160 innings this year, ending up at 322 total. Not 158. Edited April 13, 2022 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Down from 75-80% chance of rain at game time-9pm to the 40-50% range. Maybe there is hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Radar looks pretty bleak, but maybe it breaks up or moves through quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 14 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Down from 75-80% chance of rain at game time-9pm to the 40-50% range. Maybe there is hope. Weather downtown has mellowed out, warmish and humid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 57 minutes ago, pcq said: I'm worried that Keuchel wins the Cy Young AGAIN and we have to pay him a lot of money. Edited as a reminder at one point he was the best pitcher in the league. I'm bullish on his start and could care less if the team isn't as profitable next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 Maybe they think there will be a window if the official twitter account is posting the lineup line normal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I thought we had weather problems....Looks like we got out of Arizona just in time..... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 (edited) Whoo boy those are some scorching temps? Edited April 13, 2022 by Tnetennba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Tnetennba said: Whoo boy those are some scorching temps? But it's a dry heat....so it's not so bad. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 well, the twins look terrible. Getting perfecto'd after a horrible game last night. Looks like Dodgers are yanking Kershaw tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, pcq said: Weather downtown has mellowed out, warmish and humid. God I'd give my left nut to feel a warm humid midwest spring day right now. currently at a damp 42 here. worst start to spring I can remember in over a decade here. we are 15-18 degrees below normal going on a week now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqhead Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, wegner said: But it's a dry heat....so it's not so bad. I like that he just rolled with it, good stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marqhead Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 I need a game tonight. I've tried filling my boredom with family, religion, and community service but those were dead ends. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Marqhead said: I need a game tonight. I've tried filling my boredom with family, religion, and community service but those were dead ends. you can always try drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Marqhead said: I need a game tonight. I've tried filling my boredom with family, religion, and community service but those were dead ends. I'm going to be in my car after 8:00 so I would love to be listening to DJ and Len for the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 13, 2022 Share Posted April 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: you can always try drugs. Esteban Loaiza says to just say NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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