chw42 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 7:59 PM, Jack Parkman said: I think it's quite possible that the offense(and individual players) aren't as good as we thought. Robert looks more like Mike Cameron than Mike Trout. Expand The projection systems definitely saw Robert as more like Mike Cameron coming into this season. Truth is that Cameron at his peak was a 4-5 WAR player who was massively underrated because of the era he played in. I still think Robert has a much higher ceiling, but a floor of Mike Cameron isn't the end of the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:01 PM, Balta1701 said: Haseley into RF, Foster into the game. Expand Engel get hurt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) On 4/20/2022 at 8:05 PM, chw42 said: The projection systems definitely saw Robert as more like Mike Cameron coming into this season. Truth is that Cameron at his peak was a 4-5 WAR player who was massively underrated because of the era he played in. I still think Robert has a much higher ceiling, but a floor of Mike Cameron isn't the end of the world. Expand The issue is that all of the high floor/high ceiling hitters that the Sox acquired seem to be coming nowhere close to their ceilings and are basically being their safe floor or slightly above (looking at Moncada/Robert/Eloy) There's still time for Vaughn but it's disheartening that all of those guys are only scraping barely above the floor. Edited April 20, 2022 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:12 PM, Jack Parkman said: The issue is that all of the high floor/high ceiling hitters that the Sox acquired seem to be coming nowhere close to their ceilings and are basically being their safe floor or slightly above (looking at Moncada/Robert/Eloy) Expand Robert was well above his floor last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) On 4/20/2022 at 8:13 PM, fathom said: Robert was well above his floor last year Expand It was also a small sample size. Robert played what, 70 games? Edited April 20, 2022 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:04 PM, wegner said: I love what Banks did today but not sure how much of a "Momentum Changer" it is when he came in to a 10-0 game and it is now 10-1. Expand It helps in that he saves the bullpen by going 4 innings. May not be a game changer for this one but could be fir the next couple. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Yeah, I’m not going to worry about the offense in April. Maybe once hits mid-May. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:13 PM, Jack Parkman said: It was also a small sample size. Expand Everything is a small sample size unless it a full season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 7:57 PM, chw42 said: Robert is in a slump. He's been in one since the last game against Seattle. Expand Looks really bad up there right now. We've seen this before, but was man....was hopeful that corner was turned for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:15 PM, ptatc said: Everything is a small sample size unless it a full season. Expand I think 100-110 games is fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:13 PM, Jack Parkman said: It was also a small sample size. Robert played what, 70 games? Expand We’re like, 10 games into the season. Isn’t that a small sample size to be freaking out and worrying over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 AV has 3 balls hit over 100 MPH today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:16 PM, Bob Sacamano said: We’re like, 10 games into the season. Isn’t that a small sample size to be freaking out and worrying over? Expand Yep. But 0-19 is bad no matter how you slice it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:16 PM, Bob Sacamano said: We’re like, 10 games into the season. Isn’t that a small sample size to be freaking out and worrying over? Expand Its Parkman. We could be 9-0 and he'd be hanging off the ledge. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:17 PM, chw42 said: AV has 3 balls hit over 100 MPH today. Expand Looks great at the plate 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Severino!? Will he kill someone today?! Its anyone's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:17 PM, Jack Parkman said: Yep. But 0-19 is bad no matter how you slice it. Expand Robert already has a 120 game sample prior to this season. He was a 5 WAR player who looked amazing for 3 months and was terrible for a month. I think he'll be a streaky hitter in general. Hopefully his struggles recently are just mechanical or the league adjusting to him. He'll always have a chance to adjust back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:17 PM, chw42 said: AV has 3 balls hit over 100 MPH today. Expand One of the few positives of today I guess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:14 PM, ptatc said: It helps in that he saves the bullpen by going 4 innings. May not be a game changer for this one but could be fir the next couple. Expand They have a 14 man pitching staff. 14. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Sox under .200 now on the season vs RHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Yaz when he sees Severino run in from the bullpen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Is next game right after? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:14 PM, ptatc said: It helps in that he saves the bullpen by going 4 innings. May not be a game changer for this one but could be fir the next couple. Expand I guess I see momentum as more of an in game thing, but I certainly see your point especially on game 1 of a DH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:21 PM, oldsox said: They have a 14 man pitching staff. 14. Expand It’s actually 15. Damn that’s a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:22 PM, fathom said: Sox under .200 now on the season vs RHP Expand They're going to have issues hitting RHP that don't suck all year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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