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Texsox Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Just now, southsider2k5 said: Weird. That would seem to indicate they play better when aggressive and not looking at a lot of pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spumoni Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: That's only 12 games - is this just one of either home/away games? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Spumoni said: That's only 12 games - is this just one of either home/away games? Look at the time blocks again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spumoni Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Look at the time blocks again. Ah, got it. I feel dumb now haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 39 minutes ago, Texsox said: Weird. That would seem to indicate they play better when aggressive and not looking at a lot of pitches. And/or when our pitchers plow through the opposition and get quick outs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 All those stats just show the offense is getting carried by the pitching not vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulie4Pres Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 So, pitch well, win. Pitch poorly, lose. I have to imagine this is similar for a lot of teams. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, Paulie4Pres said: So, pitch well, win. Pitch poorly, lose. I have to imagine this is similar for a lot of teams. Sure, but the best teams have the ability to win some 7-6 games on nights your pitching isn't good. Sox have yet to win a game when allowing > 4 runs, and if that doesn't change, this will be at best a wild card team with an early playoff exit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Texsox said: Weird. That would seem to indicate they play better when aggressive and not looking at a lot of pitches. Not weird at all. Under 3 hrs. means they got good pitching and their AB's are still aggressive and our innings short since under 3 hr. games are pretty rare. Edited May 5, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Over the last 5 games, the bullpen has given up 10 H, 6 BBs, and 0 HRs compared to 20 Ks in 17.2 IP. Most importantly, they've only given up 3 ER in that stretch. 1.52 ERA and a 0.96 WHIP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 5, 2022 Author Share Posted May 5, 2022 I am so much less worried about Sox hitting than their pitching, it isn't even funny. -For some reason we accumulated one of the worst possible groups of really bad early starters. Ron has his annual meltdown about Jose Abreu ever year for a reason. The guy just doesn't hit until the weather breaks. -Career April OPS+ Robert 78* Grandal 88* Abreu 86* Leury 92 Harrison 86* Pollock 87 Eloy 63 * = Lowest of any month during their career on average. -Add to that the injuries to Eloy, Moncada, Pollock, and now Vaughn, and you have more and more bench ABs. -Also factor in the Sox leading MLB in luckiest team in baseball offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 34 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Not weird at all. Under 3 hrs. means they got good pitching and their AB's are still aggressive and our innings short since under 3 hr. games are pretty rare. But why aren't other teams also beating us using the same formula? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 1 hour ago, hogan873 said: And/or when our pitchers plow through the opposition and get quick outs. True, but as poorly as we're hitting and lack of taking walks, why aren't we getting plowed through and losing fast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Texsox said: But why aren't other teams also beating us using the same formula? The stats Cuda used only covered 12 of the 24 games. There is a gap between 3 and 3.5 hrs. I have no idea if the other 12 games were somewhere over 3 hrs but less than 3.5 hrs which is what his data suggests. That would mean the Sox are 4-8 in games between 3 and 3.5 hrs long. Edited May 5, 2022 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Sox also played a lot better defense the last four games or so. Love the bat, but not having to play Vaughn in LF really helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: The stats Cuda used only covered 12 of the 24 games. There is a gap between 3 and 3.5 hrs. I have no idea if the other 12 games were somewhere over 3 hrs but less than 3.5 hrs which is what his data suggests. That would mean the Sox are 4-8 in games between 3 and 3.5 hrs long. True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, fathom said: Sox also played a lot better defense the last four games or so. Love the bat, but not having to play Vaughn in LF really helps. His defense really fell off in LF. He had bad range last year, but he at least looked like he belonged in LF. Not so this year. Edited May 5, 2022 by chw42 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 Al wrote about 1K words as to why the Cubs suck and his comment section isn't having it. https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2022/5/5/23058244/cubs-white-sox-recap-kyle-hendricks-patrick-wisdom-mlb-scores Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 16 hours ago, SonofaRoache said: Well at least we scored 4. Right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: I am so much less worried about Sox hitting than their pitching, it isn't even funny. -For some reason we accumulated one of the worst possible groups of really bad early starters. Ron has his annual meltdown about Jose Abreu ever year for a reason. The guy just doesn't hit until the weather breaks. -Career April OPS+ Robert 78* Grandal 88* Abreu 86* Leury 92 Harrison 86* Pollock 87 Eloy 63 * = Lowest of any month during their career on average. -Add to that the injuries to Eloy, Moncada, Pollock, and now Vaughn, and you have more and more bench ABs. -Also factor in the Sox leading MLB in luckiest team in baseball offense. We finally found the data Tony was looking at when he hit Leury 3rd. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick Mercedes Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: I am so much less worried about Sox hitting than their pitching, it isn't even funny. -For some reason we accumulated one of the worst possible groups of really bad early starters. Ron has his annual meltdown about Jose Abreu ever year for a reason. The guy just doesn't hit until the weather breaks. -Career April OPS+ Robert 78* Grandal 88* Abreu 86* Leury 92 Harrison 86* Pollock 87 Eloy 63 * = Lowest of any month during their career on average. -Add to that the injuries to Eloy, Moncada, Pollock, and now Vaughn, and you have more and more bench ABs. -Also factor in the Sox leading MLB in luckiest team in baseball offense. Sure, but unless we get some unexpected help from unlikely sources, our win totals matching last season are questionable without the big first half magic of last season. Guys like Mercedes floated the team for awhile, Rodon and Legend, even Goodwin with big hits. Nobody is stepping up yet. I’m hoping Robert and AJ can make up for some of the Mercedes magic. They gotta start picking this up. Can we expect the Sox to have a big final stretch as opposed to the dud last season too. So I’m a little concerned if they don’t have the big first half considering last year’s home stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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