Tnetennba Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 AJ back in RF and Sheets in LF, only one of Leury or Harrison, and Leury hitting 9th. Much better TLR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 8:41 PM, Tnetennba said: Expand I would have preferred to see Pivetta and Kuechel pitch on the same day in hopes of seeing a score of 50-48. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 9:07 PM, ScooterMcGuire said: I would have preferred to see Pivetta and Kuechel pitch on the same day in hopes of seeing a score of 50-48. Expand In lieu of launching Keuchel into the sun, I might prefer your idea. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Sheets is a Master Of The Monster. Like Spider Man out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxForce2 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 9:02 PM, Tnetennba said: The simple answer is to end all blackouts on MLB.tv and let fans watch their local teams via MLB's own streaming service. Tier it local and all games if you have to. But squeezing every last dollar out of different platforms makes the greedy bastards happier it seems. Expand Balta has a pretty good handle on this in that streaming services are working up biz plans and looking for ways to edge into the sports market as sports orgs are themselves looking for the right angle to take on the streaming platforms. A work in progress from all POVs. The problem lies in how viewers are taking being put in a 'man-in-the-middle' position on a frequent basis. I'm not too crazy about having to jump around looking for a game I want to see. If MLB were to enable a decent variety of games to be made readily available on a regular basis, this wouldn't be so inconvenient. Right now the entire field is in flux - a little stability would be appreciated by most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Crazy that Wacha has gone from cannon fodder to ace after changing from the Rays to Red Sox...and Pivetta is suddenly the must win game. Meanwhile, Joe Ryan in Minnesota blossoming into a RoY candidate. Yet the Tampa keeps plugging along and hardly skips a beat despite the lineup equivalent of SFG + Wander Franco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 9:16 PM, FoxForce2 said: Balta has a pretty good handle on this in that streaming services are working up biz plans and looking for ways to edge into the sports market as sports orgs are themselves looking for the right angle to take on the streaming platforms. A work in progress from all POVs. The problem lies in how viewers are taking being put in a 'man-in-the-middle' position on a frequent basis. I'm not too crazy about having to jump around looking for a game I want to see. If MLB were to enable a decent variety of games to be made readily available on a regular basis, this wouldn't be so inconvenient. Right now the entire field is in flux - a little stability would be appreciated by most. Expand I think now that places are hitting "subscriber growth limits", we're likely to see some consolidation of streaming services over time that will help iron this out. The market is too fragmented right now, no one wants to have to subscribe to 6 different services to find the content they want. That will take time, but it should also help issues like this clear up. That said, the blackout rules still suck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Dallas better be on a game 3 vs Oakland type leash when he starts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 3:53 PM, shago said: Totally disagree, it's a total sh^t barn and absolute joke of a field, from the dimensions to the wall ... might as well have a clown's mouth target for a free steak and a windmill... The seats in most of the bleachers don't even face the field. Fans are mostly obnoxious drunk hockey fans. Place sucks, as do the Sawx. Expand But you can get clam chowder in the stadium. It's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) On 5/6/2022 at 9:23 PM, Balta1701 said: I think now that places are hitting "subscriber growth limits", we're likely to see some consolidation of streaming services over time that will help iron this out. The market is too fragmented right now, no one wants to have to subscribe to 6 different services to find the content they want. That will take time, but it should also help issues like this clear up. That said, the blackout rules still suck. Expand How about the rule in the NFL where all Monday and Thursday night games are separate from the normal hame package as well? They sell them off separately. I think most if not all Thursday games are on prime this year. It's not like baseball is the only one. Edited May 6, 2022 by ptatc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 If it helps the players to earn more money I don't care how many different services they use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 9:33 PM, ptatc said: How about the rule in the NFL where all Monday and Thursday night games are separate from the normal hame package as well? They sell them off separately. I think most if not all Thursday games are on prime this year. It's not like baseball is the only one. Expand I don't know what it will be this year or whenever things move to Amazon or whatever that mess was, but I always got the impression that the NFL was trying to bring me their content. Almost all the Thursday night games here got simulcast on one of the main networks, so even if you didn't have NFL network you didn't lose the game, you just had to find which network had it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 9:39 PM, Balta1701 said: I don't know what it will be this year or whenever things move to Amazon or whatever that mess was, but I always got the impression that the NFL was trying to bring me their content. Almost all the Thursday night games here got simulcast on one of the main networks, so even if you didn't have NFL network you didn't lose the game, you just had to find which network had it. Expand I think that more about the networks paying the cost for the extra games because there are only 17 of them. Would they pay the extra cost if there were 162? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted May 6, 2022 Author Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) On 5/6/2022 at 9:02 PM, Tnetennba said: The simple answer is to end all blackouts on MLB.tv and let fans watch their local teams via MLB's own streaming service. Tier it local and all games if you have to. But squeezing every last dollar out of different platforms makes the greedy bastards happier it seems. Expand I have MLB.TV, I live in Michigan, and it STILL won't let me watch Chicago baseball games on my phone. It actually lets me watch Detroit games and I "shouldn't" be able to watch those. I've called multiple times and no one has been able to figure it out for me. Now, it's not a huge deal because I got it free through T-Mobile, and I use my mom's YouTube TV account to watch pretty much all of the games on NBCSC, but if I didn't have that option I'd either be A) pissed or B) watching through shitty illegal reddit streams, or C) both. Most likely C. It's just incredibly ridiculous. Edited May 6, 2022 by ScooterMcGuire 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 9:23 PM, Balta1701 said: I think now that places are hitting "subscriber growth limits", we're likely to see some consolidation of streaming services over time that will help iron this out. The market is too fragmented right now, no one wants to have to subscribe to 6 different services to find the content they want. That will take time, but it should also help issues like this clear up. That said, the blackout rules still suck. Expand Yea this is accurate. My buddy works at Hulu, fairly high up and over BBQ the other weekend the topic came up and he said basically Hulu is just working towards either getting sold off from Disney for a huge sum or vice versa and acquiring other services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 9:44 PM, ScooterMcGuire said: I have MLB.TV, I live in Michigan, and it STILL won't let me watch Chicago baseball games on my phone. It actually lets me watch Detroit games and I "shouldn't" be able to watch those. I've called multiple times and no one has been able to figure it out for me. Now, it's not a huge deal because I got it free through T-Mobile, and I use my mom's YouTube TV account to watch pretty much all of the games on NBCSC, but if I didn't have that option I'd either be A) pissed or B) watching through shitty illegal reddit streams, or C) both. Most likely C. Expand That's just asinine. Blackout rules still existing in 2022 is idiotic. The technology is there to allow everyone to stream games from tv or mobile, and old school on cable. They don't need multiple outside services to stream the product whose rights they own. Its needlessly difficult for this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 9:53 PM, Tnetennba said: That's just asinine. Blackout rules still existing in 2022 is idiotic. The technology is there to allow everyone to stream games from tv or mobile, and old school on cable. They don't need multiple outside services to stream the product whose rights they own. Its needlessly difficult for this day and age. Expand All sports still do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) On 5/6/2022 at 9:37 PM, Texsox said: If it helps the owners to earn more money I don't care how many different services they use. Expand Unless more than 50% of revenues are going towards payroll...but it's not even that close. And that's without examining the "real" books for most franchises. At least in golf, you have senior tours and now that new Saudi Arabia financed Super League as an option for Mickelson and Sergio. Because of anti-trust, it would be nearly impossible for baseball players to pull off the same. Edited May 6, 2022 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 10:02 PM, caulfield12 said: Unless more than 50% of revenues are going towards payroll...but it's not even that close. And that's without examining the "real" books for most franchises. Expand Do you payroll for the employees on the field only? What about the staff throughout the rest of the organization? The MLB players are about what 20-25% of the employees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 (edited) On 5/6/2022 at 10:08 PM, ptatc said: Do you payroll for the employees on the field only? What about the staff throughout the rest of the organization? The MLB players are about what 20-25% of the employees? Expand Simply comparing to players' share of revenue across the Big 4 sports. NBA over 50%, NFL up to 48%. NHL 50/50. So if we're upset with players earning too much, that's even moreso the case in the NFL, NBA and NHL. Edited May 6, 2022 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 10:09 PM, caulfield12 said: Simply comparing to players' share of revenue across the Big 4 sports. NBA over 50%, NFL up to 48%. NHL 50/50. So if we're upset with players earning too much, that's even moreso the case in the NFL, NBA and NHL. Expand NFL rosters are much bigger so that percentage is spread out over more players. I think someone mentioned the MLB players were getting about 47% of revenue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 10:18 PM, ptatc said: NFL rosters are much bigger so that percentage is spread out over more players. I think someone mentioned the MLB players were getting about 47% of revenue. Expand I'm sure Balta will have 3-5 compelling reasons why it is actually closer to 43% in MLB and falling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 6:58 PM, pcq said: Ed Walsh used to mow 'em down like nobody's business Expand True but that was before any of us was born. Many of us got to see( more often heard) JB dominate Boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Looks like we will get this gain in. Saturday may be wetter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted May 6, 2022 Share Posted May 6, 2022 Pre-game lady is hideous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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