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In before somebody says “It was an 8 game losing streak, not a 3 game losing streak”…

And then somebody counters with “Yeah, but the thread was made when we had only lost 3 in a row”…

And then somebody counters that with “Yeah, but the signs were all there. You could tell things were going south.”

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10 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said:

In before somebody says “It was an 8 game losing streak, not a 3 game losing streak”…

And then somebody counters with “Yeah, but the thread was made when we had only lost 3 in a row”…

And then somebody counters that with “Yeah, but the signs were all there. You could tell things were going south.”

Except the thread was made 13 minutes ago as of my post ;)

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7 minutes ago, Tony said:

They are playing better than they were. This is good. 
 

They still can’t hit RH pitching. This is bad. 

Defense is better, lineups are better, pitching is still great, offense still is struggling, bullpen is much better, offense is still struggling. 

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My post in the other thread is that pitching looks like it will carry this club to at least 80 wins. Depending on how the offense does it might win anywhere from 85 to 95 I'd guess. Assuming no more bad injuries and the guys out come back strong. If not who knows. Just stay healthy FFS.

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Once again, it seems like the most important player on the team is Yoan Moncada.  If he's close to his 2019 form, he'll be a huge catalyst to offensive improvement.  Even if he's 2021 Moncada, he'll still be a nice addition back.

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Bullpen has been great and Kelly will be here soon to keep it strong.

How Lynn is when he comes back will be a key to the rotation.

Boy the offense needs a better approach.  Situationally they are quite awful.

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Bouncing back and winning 5 straight is reassuring, but the offense is still shit.  Jumping off a cliff with the losing streak is as premature as believing all is well with a win streak.  Still too early to know how good or bad this team is. 

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45 minutes ago, Tnetennba said:

Bouncing back and winning 5 straight is reassuring, but the offense is still shit.  Jumping off a cliff with the losing streak is as premature as believing all is well with a win streak.  Still too early to know how good or bad this team is. 

adds up to .500 I guess is the best way to put it. given the injuries ok fine but pick it the fuck up offense.

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Getting back to .500 so quickly is huge. Sox were really looking like a team that might have a very very disappointing season.

It's disappointing Vaughn got hurt and Sheets has been horrible. Moncada will be a huge key. Anyhow, if the Sox continue to reek against Central Division teams the year will be lousy. Those games are key and Sox have stunk versus the Central. I personally think the Sox have been more alert playing the Cubs and Bosox.

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6 hours ago, asindc said:

Hey, if a 3-game losing streak is cause for concern, then a 5-game winning streak should erase that concern, right?

A 5 game winning streak against 2 poor teams, if they can continue this against better opponents then I will stop being concerned but 5 games is a good start.

Also it wasn't so much the fact that they were losing so many games it was more the fact that they were so bad in all those games and lacked basic fielding, batting or pitching ability that was the bigger concern.

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6 hours ago, Tony said:

They are playing better than they were. This is good. 
 

They still can’t hit RH pitching. This is bad. 

The team is still 20th in batting average and 29th in fielding so whilst they have got better there is still plenty of room for improvement.

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8 hours ago, wegner said:

Bullpen has been great and Kelly will be here soon to keep it strong.

How Lynn is when he comes back will be a key to the rotation.

Boy the offense needs a better approach.  Situationally they are quite awful.

It's also a little encouraging that they've eeked out a few road wins. Bad teams yes and Wrigley is only technically a road game.

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5 hours ago, Chimpton said:

A 5 game winning streak against 2 poor teams, if they can continue this against better opponents then I will stop being concerned but 5 games is a good start.

Also it wasn't so much the fact that they were losing so many games it was more the fact that they were so bad in all those games and lacked basic fielding, batting or pitching ability that was the bigger concern.

It’s a long season.

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5 hours ago, Chimpton said:

A 5 game winning streak against 2 poor teams, if they can continue this against better opponents then I will stop being concerned but 5 games is a good start.

Also it wasn't so much the fact that they were losing so many games it was more the fact that they were so bad in all those games and lacked basic fielding, batting or pitching ability that was the bigger concern.

How bad they looked during the losing streak was alarming.  A 5 game win streak doesn’t completely erase that.  It still feels like they could revert back to that level of bad fairly easily and I need much more than 5 good games to feel really confident in them again. 

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A few posters here routinely castigate  the WSox organization from top to bottom claiming inferior ownership and management and a  failed franchise.

Meanwhile, the last  series instant the Cubs and BoSox provided a  few counterpoints for those willing to notice.

 

 

 

 

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i’m still concerned. the bar here isn’t winning streaks, it’s being a legit championship contender. hard to see that as a reality when you struggle to hit right-handed starting pitchers. 

that can certainly improve as you get guys back and others rise to more historical norms. that said, right now it looks a lot like last year and last year wasn’t good enough. 

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11 minutes ago, tray said:

A few posters here routinely castigate  the WSox organization from top to bottom claiming inferior ownership and management and a  failed franchise.

Meanwhile, the last  series instant the Cubs and BoSox provided a  few counterpoints for those willing to notice.

 

 

 

 

A few of said posters praised the BoSox off-season specifically while blasting the White Sox by comparison.  Don’t worry, though, I’m sure they now discount the sweep in Fenway as meaningless because the Red Sox are obviously a bad team.  I mean, the White Sox beat them!

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4 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

A few of said posters praised the BoSox off-season specifically while blasting the White Sox by comparison.  Don’t worry, though, I’m sure they now discount the sweep in Fenway as meaningless because the Red Sox are obviously a bad team.  I mean, the White Sox beat them!

Who thought Boston had a good off-season? I picked them to finish 4th and that's where they're going to finish.

Nobody should discount this winning streak but also nobody should deny the reality that Cleveland and especially the Yankees are hitting much better than the Cubs and Boston right now and we cant count on continuing to win games scoring 3-4 runs every game.

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7 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

A few of said posters praised the BoSox off-season specifically while blasting the White Sox by comparison.  Don’t worry, though, I’m sure they now discount the sweep in Fenway as meaningless because the Red Sox are obviously a bad team.  I mean, the White Sox beat them!

Can you identify who praised the Red Sox offseason?

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6 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said:

A few of said posters praised the BoSox off-season specifically while blasting the White Sox by comparison.  Don’t worry, though, I’m sure they now discount the sweep in Fenway as meaningless because the Red Sox are obviously a bad team.  I mean, the White Sox beat them!

Well, the Red Sox fans also are already booing Trevor Story...who has a much better OPS than many Sox hitters.  And Wacha has been one of the top 10 pickups of the offseason.

Overall, though, their current legacy is colored by the Sale injury and losing both Betts and now likely Bogaerts as well to FA. 

Team in transition coming off a year they arguably overperformed in retrospect.  And pretty clearly the second toughest division in baseball.

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6 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said:

Who thought Boston had a good off-season? I picked them to finish 4th and that's where they're going to finish.

Nobody should discount this winning streak but also nobody should deny the reality that Cleveland and especially the Yankees are hitting much better than the Cubs and Boston right now and we cant count on continuing to win games scoring 3-4 runs every game.

They were not one of the consensus picks for Top 5 postseasons.

Cubs, Giants, Tigers, Mariners, Rangers, Blue Jays and Dodgers were all up there.

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