Look at Ray Ray Run Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, Polar Bear said: When all you do i walk or K you have a higher wRC+ lol. It means you won't do anything for your team except K or stand at 1B and wait for your teammates to actually do good. (Now does he have the talent to do much better, yes, but he has lost his game since he got covid and needs to get it back. Hopefully being in the minors has helped him some) Yoan Moncada ISO - 148 Jake Burger ISO - 113 Yoan Moncada slug - 412 Jake Burger slug - 352 Yoan Moncada OBP - 375 Jake Burger OBO - 276 If you honestly think Jake Burger has been a better hitter this year than Yoan was last year you should stop watching baseball. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Polar Bear said: When all you do i walk or K you have a higher wRC+ lol. It means you won't do anything for your team except K or stand at 1B and wait for your teammates to actually do good. (Now does he have the talent to do much better, yes, but he has lost his game since he got covid and needs to get it back. Hopefully being in the minors has helped him some) 2 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Polar Bear probably also cites the "eye test" like it has any value haha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: LOL Moncada had a 122 wRC+ last season. Burger's wRC+ was 87 this year. Moncada was 35% better offensively last year than Burger has been this year. Not just 35% better, but 35 percentage points better. He is about 50% better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 34 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Polar Bear is a troll. I disagree. He may be stalker-like in his love for Burger, and slasher-like in his hate for Moncada, but I think it's his genuine opinion. To be a troll he would be faking those points. Other posters who merely like Burger and like Moncada on the Polar Bear scale will appear to hate Burger and love Moncada. That gets him as excited as a Baptist preacher at a revival meetin'. What's interesting is at one time @Polar Bear was a big Moncada fan. Something changed but he's never said what it was. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, Texsox said: I disagree. He may be stalker-like in his love for Berger, and slasher-like in his hate for Moncada, but I think it's his genuine opinion. To be a troll he would be faking those points. Other posters who merely like Berger and like Moncada on the Polar Bear scale will appear to hate Berger and love Moncada. That gets him as excited as a Baptist preacher at a revival meetin'. What's interesting is at one time @Polar Bear was a big Moncada fan. Something changed but he's never said what it was. Moncada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Texsox said: I disagree. He may be stalker-like in his love for Burger, and slasher-like in his hate for Moncado, but I think it's his genuine opinion. To be a troll he would be faking those points. Other posters who merely like Burger and like Moncado on the Polar Bear scale will appear to hate Burger and love Moncado. That gets him as excited as a Baptist preacher at a revival meetin'. What's interesting is at one time @Polar Bear was a big Moncado fan. Something changed but he's never said what it was. Nothing has changed. Still love Moncada which is why I've never said Burger deserves a roster spot over him. I just feel Moncada needs to be at 2B and Burger at 3B to optimize this lineup and put our best product on the field. Hell, my username was Moncada for the longest time, I've just seen a large regression in his hitting ability ever since he got covid. I'm really hoping having the first month plus off has allowed him to regain that fire and power that has been missing from his game, bc we definitely need it and him in the lineup Leury, Sheets, Mendick, and Harrison are what is not needed. None of those 4 deserve a spot over Burger, not one. Burger is a guy that if we traded will go off and have a spectacular career. It's just embarrassing that the Sox would rather play crap guys and roster crap guys over him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Moncada. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) The self proclaimed two "biggest Moncada fans" on Soxtalk hate on him relentlessly and couldn't be further from accurate on his ability or production last year. Both Jack and Polar Bear believe they're fans of Moncada, but they're more-so like abusive fathers who claim they just want what is best for their boy while they whoop his ass for having fun and smiling despite making an out on the baseball field. Neither of you are big Moncada fans because you don't actually appreciate all the areas he does contribute and make absurd proclamations like "Jake Burger has been a better hitter this year than Moncada was last year." Also, moving Moncada to second base would be a disaster of a decision and not one that a Moncada fan would recommend or want. Edited May 9, 2022 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, Polar Bear said: Nothing has changed. Still love Moncada which is why I've never said Burger deserves a roster spot over him. I just feel Moncada needs to be at 2B and Burger at 3B to optimize this lineup and put our best product on the field. Hell, my username was Moncada for the longest time, I've just seen a large regression in his hitting ability ever since he got covid. I'm really hoping having the first month plus off has allowed him to regain that fire and power that has been missing from his game, bc we definitely need it and him in the lineup Leury, Sheets, Mendick, and Harrison are what is not needed. None of those 4 deserve a spot over Burger, not one. Burger is a guy that if we traded will go off and have a spectacular career. It's just embarrassing that the Sox would rather play crap guys and roster crap guys over him. I'm 90% there. I think of those five it would be easy to pick any one and say they deserve a spot ahead of any of the other four. Personally, *for this roster and season*, I like Leury ahead of Burger. But I wouldn't disagree if you put Burger ahead of Sheets or Mendick and I'd agree to disagree with Harrison. I'm really hoping he's not traded, but if he was I cheer for him in whatever uniform he was wearing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Polar Bear said: Burger single handedly has lead us to a couple of wins on the winning streak. You obviously haven't been watching What’s your definition of “single handedly”? In one game, Burger drew a huge BB. Then Engel had a big double, and Leury hit a rocket for a sac fly. Then we scored some runs in extras without the help of Burger. So maybe by “single handedly”, you meant one of five or six guys that contributed on the offensive side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Mighty Mite Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 My guess is Burger was sent down to play second base as Harrison hasn't been the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Just now, The Mighty Mite said: My guess is Burger was sent down to play second base as Harrison hasn't been the answer. The odds of Burger being even an average MLB 2B are about 15%. We shall see. But certainly not counting on it. Last time I checked, we didn't have a specialist who transformed our former players like Semien Narvaez and heck even Luis Gonzalez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: My guess is Burger was sent down to play second base as Harrison hasn't been the answer. If I was trying to make a career in baseball I'd look at Leury Garcia, buy five gloves, and start using them. There's a hole, I'll fill it. I think Burger is talented enough to pull it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Yoan hasn't been the same since he had the COVID. He has taken a lot of walks, but his power stroke is missing. The virus has long term effects on some who are infected with it. Let's hope he's really over it now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spumoni Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 I see this Burger/Moncada thing got a little outta hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said: My guess is Burger was sent down to play second base as Harrison hasn't been the answer. Yolbert has 2B until he is called up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Polar Bear said: Moncada hasn't done anything yet so ill still stand by it. Burger so far this season has been better than Moncada as a hitter last season. Moncada better start hot and stay hot Serious question: are you an actual polar bear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: The self proclaimed two "biggest Moncada fans" on Soxtalk hate on him relentlessly and couldn't be further from accurate on his ability or production last year. Both Jack and Polar Bear believe they're fans of Moncada, but they're more-so like abusive fathers who claim they just want what is best for their boy while they whoop his ass for having fun and smiling despite making an out on the baseball field. Neither of you are big Moncada fans because you don't actually appreciate all the areas he does contribute and make absurd proclamations like "Jake Burger has been a better hitter this year than Moncada was last year." Also, moving Moncada to second base would be a disaster of a decision and not one that a Moncada fan would recommend or want. That's a paddlin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 8 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: The odds of Burger being even an average MLB 2B are about 15%. We shall see. But certainly not counting on it. Last time I checked, we didn't have a specialist who transformed our former players like Semien Narvaez and heck even Luis Gonzalez. Burger barely played a passable 3B in the first month. I give him like a 0% ability to play 2B in the Majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Also, moving Moncada to second base would be a disaster of a decision and not one that a Moncada fan would recommend or want. Moncada had the most errors in baseball by a 3B in 2021..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polar Bear Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: Serious question: are you an actual polar bear? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 4 minutes ago, 35thstreetswarm said: Serious question: are you an actual polar bear? That would clear up quite a few things, frankly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Bob Sacamano said: Yolbert has 2B until he is called up. JR is paying the salaries. But you're most likely correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Polar Bear said: Moncada had the most errors in baseball by a 3B in 2021..... No, that would be Rafael Devers with 22. And just about every good 3B in baseball had a similar amount of errors. Moncada had 16, Ramirez had 15, Donaldson had 13, Machado had 13, and even Arenado had 11. It's almost like errors aren't the best way to judge a player's defensive ability. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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