The Beast Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:07 AM, Jack Parkman said: The money was spent, just poorly. Expand A fraction was spent. I’m convinced they still have more in the tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:06 AM, Jack Parkman said: They weren't good enough last year either, and with the roster inflexibility/lack of surplus value on contracts, it's hard to see how they ever will get there. Expand If they're going to continue prioritizing relievers and utility infielders over impact players, then I would agree it will be hard to get there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:05 AM, The Beast said: “Price range.” The money will be spent, remember? We all talked about the luxury tax and how they still had some money left. They must really just want a middling team they are disguising as one that is competing for multiple championships. Talk about misinformation. Expand B….b…but they have spent the money! Foolishly. Next offseason we’ll go through the same motions again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Park Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 There is that quote where Reinsdorf said it's better to be a 2nd place team.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken S Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 This team is very flat, no enthusiasm of any of the players unbelievable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:06 AM, Jack Parkman said: They weren't good enough last year either, and with the roster inflexibility/lack of surplus value on contracts, it's hard to see how they ever will get there. I hate to break it to you, Rodon wouldn't help this team much either. Expand Rodon has been arguably the best pitcher in baseball so far this year. Of course he would be making a massive difference on this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:07 AM, The Beast said: Sure. Blame is on him. But the blame is also on the players and their shitty performance and on the octogenarian who wants to take money to his grave. Asshole. Expand The payroll is plenty high enough to contend this year. They just spent it on players that can’t compete against good teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Cole will throw a CG all he needs to do is threw FBs up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:09 AM, maxjusttyped said: Rodon has been arguably the best pitcher in baseball so far this year. Of course he would be making a massive difference on this team. Expand He was the only one who shut down the Yanks last year on the Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:08 AM, Sarava said: If they're going to continue prioritizing relievers and utility infielders over impact players, then I would agree it will be hard to get there. Expand Hahn has been overvaluing relievers long before Tony got here, too. That's just what the Sox do organizationally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:08 AM, Sarava said: If they're going to continue prioritizing relievers and utility infielders over impact players, then I would agree it will be hard to get there. Expand I still want to understand the rationale of stocking up on bullpen arms. A shorter game? Not when the starters struggle and can’t get a quality start, then relievers are hung out to dry. I’m still wondering why there’s a glut of 1B/OF types out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:08 AM, The Beast said: A fraction was spent. I’m convinced they still have more in the tank. Expand Sure doesn’t sound like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:09 AM, White Sox Park said: There is that quote where Reinsdorf said it's better to be a 2nd place team.. Expand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:08 AM, Sarava said: If they're going to continue prioritizing relievers and utility infielders over impact players, then I would agree it will be hard to get there. Expand They will light money on fire on the Eatons, Garcias, Harrisons and such rather than commit money medium to long term for a true impact player. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:09 AM, White Sox Park said: There is that quote where Reinsdorf said it's better to be a 2nd place team.. Expand Something about dangling the carrot, right? And so many White Sox fans are right there alongside Reinsdorf, as if its their money on the line. “Rodon isn’t worth the QO risk or a Two year deal.” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:09 AM, maxjusttyped said: Rodon has been arguably the best pitcher in baseball so far this year. Of course he would be making a massive difference on this team. Expand You can't win if you don't score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 (edited) On 5/14/2022 at 1:11 AM, Flash Tizzle said: Something about dangling the carrot, right? And so many White Sox fans are right there alongside Reinsdorf, as if its their money on the line. “Rodon isn’t worth the QO risk or a Two year deal.” Expand Not bringing back Rodon is fine if they actually spent that money wisely. They didn't. Kopech has been nearly as good as Rodon. Blame the Keuchel contract. That's where Rodon's money went. Edited May 14, 2022 by Jack Parkman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:12 AM, Jack Parkman said: You can't win if you don't score. Expand I'm gonna say it's easier to win with a bad offense if you have a top 3 pitcher in the sport taking starts that are currently going to Keuchel and VV. But that's just me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:09 AM, fathom said: The payroll is plenty high enough to contend this year. They just spent it on players that can’t compete against good teams. Expand Exactly. They also didn’t get enough of a balanced roster to contend against good teams. On 5/14/2022 at 1:09 AM, Flash Tizzle said: B….b…but they have spent the money! Foolishly. Next offseason we’ll go through the same motions again Expand Exactly. And the moves won’t make sense. On 5/14/2022 at 1:09 AM, White Sox Park said: There is that quote where Reinsdorf said it's better to be a 2nd place team.. Expand Yep and the same fans show up to see the middling team year after year. Fuck him. On 5/14/2022 at 1:10 AM, fathom said: Sure doesn’t sound like it Expand Because the old man wants to roll around in his grave in his money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 We are not contenders right now. BUT its 162 We look like a minor league team compared to Yankees. I never want to see another line up with Josh Harrison and leury Garcia and butch Mcguire....BUT it was be forced down my throat 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 This shows how amateur hour Hahn is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:13 AM, 2Deep said: We are not contenders right now. BUT its 162 We look like a minor league team compared to Yankees. I never want to see another line up with Josh Harrison and leury Garcia and butch Mcguire....BUT it was be forced down my throat Expand Exactly what I was thinking. It’s the Kane County Cougars versus the Yankees. Maybe the septuagenarian needs to understand who he is putting in the lineup… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 its crazy the difference in the competitive level of the at bats. the yankess make you battle them and throw strikes - work your ass off we just get up their and flail away -its been that way for a long time and its never going to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:13 AM, 2Deep said: We are not contenders right now. BUT its 162 We look like a minor league team compared to Yankees. I never want to see another line up with Josh Harrison and leury Garcia and butch Mcguire....BUT it was be forced down my throat Expand But we suffered through the rebuild to build this "Championship Core!" LOL This is our window to contend for "multiple championships" LOL! And if you believe that, Jerry's got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 On 5/14/2022 at 1:13 AM, maxjusttyped said: I'm gonna say it's easier to win with a bad offense if you have a top 3 pitcher in the sport taking starts that are currently going to Keuchel and VV. But that's just me. Expand I'm gonna say that they were never going to spend $22M on Rodon with Keuchel taking up 18M in payroll. Keuchel was going to start for 2-3 months. It's the opposite of what a good team would do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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