Is Aaron Bummer alive? What is with this roster management?

[Balta1701]

For this thread I don’t want to bother with the manager. This is driving me batty and I don’t know what the deal is.

The White Sox lost todays game in large part because they put Sousa on the mound in the 7th.

Aaron Bummer last pitched on Tuesday the 7th. He never warmed up today. It’s clear he wasn’t available - and he’s now been out for 4 days. 

It seems there were 3 other relievers unavailable today - Graveman and Lopez from throwing a lot yesterday and maybe another back issue for Hendriks.

I understand when you can’t use a guy because he’s overworked, and I understand a guy missing a day or two for back spasms. But Bummer has now been out for half an IL trip already, and that means they’re playing a full man down before other people get hurt or overworked. 

Why is Aaron Bummer not on the IL if he cannot pitch today? Banks as a warm body is better than exhausted Ruiz and Foster in the 10th inning.

This is not the first guy they’ve played this game with this season. They kept thinking Vaughn would come back from his bruise and wasted a roster spot for a week. Harrison missed a week with an injury and they didn’t IL him either. I think there was another one I’m forgetting right now. 

Why are we playing short handed like this? They keep doing it and it massively contributed to a loss today.

[CentralChamps21]

So I think we all know the active roster is 26 players and they must come from the 40 man roster. 60 day IL guys do not count against the 40 man roster but 10/15 day IL guys do. Right now the Sox have 3 guys on the 10/15 day IL (Kelly, Velaszquez, Anderson). So that reduces to 37 the number of guys from which the 26 must come. Some of those 37 guys are young guys who had to get added to the 40 to protect them from the Rule 5 draft.

That said, there's still Banks, Burr and Severino who have already pitched at the major league level this year, so there's no excuse for carrying Bummer for more than 2-3 days if he's hurt. On the position player side, all four guys on the 40 at AAA have played at the major league level, though only Sheets and Haseley have done so this season.

Claiming Parker Markel was a head-scratcher given then they were already going to have to open up one sport on the 40 for Lynn, and now probably a second spot for a catcher.

 

[South Side Hit Men]

Is the 10 Day IL still available? I can see waiting to get Bummer back through the weekend if you lose him 15 days for a 4-6 day absence. If the 10 day is available they should pull the trigger if he can't go tomorrow with no anticipated return date available.

However, there is  absolutely no excuse for activating players from the IL when they are still unavailable for days after their activation.

I also believe they should return Yoan to the IL, and be cautious with Grandal and put him on the IL if necessary once they determine the extent of his injury. They aren't improving with their ailments trying to soldier through it.

[Balta1701]

4 minutes ago, South Side Hit Men said:

Is the 10 Day IL still available? I can see waiting to get Bummer back through the weekend if you lose him 15 days for a 4-6 day absence. If the 10 day is available they should pull the trigger if he can't go tomorrow with no anticipated return date available.

However, there is  absolutely no excuse for activating players from the IL when they are still unavailable for days after their activation.

I also believe they should return Yoan to the IL, and be cautious with Grandal and put him on the IL if necessary once they determine the extent of his injury. They aren't improving with their ailments trying to soldier through it.

Yes, it’s a 10 day IL.

[CentralChamps21]

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

Yes, it’s a 10 day IL.

I think it's 10 for position players and 15 for pitchers.

[South Side Hit Men]

2 minutes ago, CentralChamps21 said:

I think it's 10 for position players and 15 for pitchers.

This is correct after looking it up.

https://www.mlb.com/glossary/injuries/15-day-injured-list

MLB brought back the 15-day IL for pitchers and two-way players in 2022, with the 10-day IL remaining in place for position players.

Again, it's a judgement call on some injuries your initial prognosis is a return over a few days. However, I don't understand activating a player who is physically unable to play upon activation. 

• May 31, Luis Robert Activated - Sits during a 6-5 loss at Toronto.
• May 13, Andrew Vaughn Activated - Sits during a 10-4 loss to the Yankees.

Andrew sat against a solid RHP (Cole), and Lucas is the one he swapped roster spots with, so not as much of an issue with that call. However, Robert could have been a winning difference in the Toronto game.

[Texsox]

Trying to be positive here and put this in the best possible light but each thought I have fails quickly in analysis.

My best possible explanation I can come up with is he's "day to day" and they expect him each day to be available. But when is he throwing to determine how he feels?

In the game thread it was pointed out that the rest of the bullpen arms suck as well. 

 

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

15 hours ago, Texsox said:

Trying to be positive here and put this in the best possible light but each thought I have fails quickly in analysis.

My best possible explanation I can come up with is he's "day to day" and they expect him each day to be available. But when is he throwing to determine how he feels?

In the game thread it was pointed out that the rest of the bullpen arms suck as well. 

 

As Balta pointed out the issue was who is exactly was available to pitch yesterday ? Apparently the only choices were Sousa, Crick , Foster, Lambert and maybe Hendriks.

If Hendriks was available he's not going to pitch the 7th so that leaves one fairly fresh guy (Lambert). Crick had pitched 2.0 innings on the 9th. Sousa pitched on the 8th and 9th (1.2IP). Foster also pitched on the 8th and 9th (1.1IP). Ruiz also pitched on the 8th and 9th (2.0IP). So Ruiz, Foster and Sousa all would've been pitching in 3 out of the last 4 games and they all gave up runs yesterday.

With 2 of the 1st 3 batter coming up being lefties, LaRussa did what most managers probably do and brings in the LH Sousa to see if he could muddle through 3 batters. Obviously it didn't work but it's not like he had a bunch of great options to choose from.

One could say Lambert was the best choice. Jimmy Lambert with the 9.24 ERA and 21 hits allowed in 12.2 in AAA. Perhaps Crick who had already been on the Charlotte to Chicago to Charlotte shuttle before. Any way you slice it was a close your eyes and draw a name out of a hat and hope for the best situation when all you have to choose from is a bunch of tired and AAA arms or bring in a RHP to face the lefties.